Is this feeding any good?

[Guest Denny]

I have been given a sack of seed from a chap who races pigeons, he said his birds did not take to the seed - it is in a brown hessian sack with no name or anything to go by what it is.

 

Can anyone advise if this seed is ok to give to my birds?  I am a complete novice and have no ideas on low carb, high or low proteins etc in different seeds.  

 

Is there a breakdown anywhere on the forum on what seed gives what for a bird let alone what seed is what?  All I recognise are the peas, barley bits and sweetcorn!  Told you I was a novice!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[pjc]

looks fine, maybe add some beans to it or more mapples

[Guest stb-]

looks like a young bird mix of some kind,

 

quality looks ok aswell

[bruno1]

I've altered your title, its a bag of 'feeding' you have been given, rather than a bag of seed, so I am sure someone will recognise it.

 

I think it may be one of Buckton's mixes containing beans, blue peas, white peas, and maize. Buckton's usually tell you on the bag what it contains, and what it is meant for, e.g. breeding, racing, YBs etc.

[greenlands]

Hi Denny,

Have yourself a look at some of the main feed supplier sites,most of them have breakdowns of thier feed.

Everyone will have a different reason for liking or not liking a feed,to me that as too much maize in,but others may like it.

 

Straights & Nutritional Comments

Maize

The several types of maize don't give much feeding value in difference with the main differences being mostly in outlook and the vitamin percentages. Maize contains many digestible carbohydrates, little raw cellulose and an awful lot of fat.

Peas

Peas are the protein carrier to the corn mixture and they have a very high feeding value and are easily digestible by the bird. Difference in protein percentage can differ from type to type. Those used by Johnston & Jeff offers consistency of percentage. We do not use cheaper peas like the Canadian trapper peas where the difference in protein content may be 10% lower than those that come from New Zealand.

Beans

The same feeding value as Peas but on average have a little more protein and fat. The Tic Bean is an ideal breeding food for young pigeons.

Wheat

The wheat used in our mixtures is grown by a farmer just outside of Hull and the wheat bought is of biscuit quality. This means that it has a high percentage of protein and a lower percentage of fat then maize.

New crop wheat is always used for the Moulting mixture as new crop wheat contains a lot of sulphur which is an ideal moulting stimulant.

Tares

These are actually a pulse and are very high in protein and therefore are only used sparingly in mixtures.

Safflower seed

Rich in good digestible proteins and oils, phosphor and vitamins. This is why they are very useful in moulting and racing mixtures but their own problem is lack of Vitamin E content.

White Dari

It is very sweet for pigeons to eat but contains very little fat and very little protein. It is therefore, an ideal grain to put in to depurative mixtures or as a supplementary regulator to prevent a mixture becoming too heavy to digest.

Red Dari (Milo)

Very similar to White Dari in that it contains very little fat and only around 7.6% protein so prevents the fattening of pigeons.

Naked Oats

Very highly digestible food, offering reasonable amounts of protein and extremely digestible fats.

Barley

This contains a lot of raw cellulose, little fat and little digestible protein. This is the ideal cereal for depurative mixtures and overweight pigeons can be brought in to condition again with barley.

Buckwheat

Contains an awful lot of raw cellulose but less fat than that of oats and the protein is a higher biological feeding value than most of the cereals. To be used sparingly in mixtures.

Linseed

Linseed contains a lot of fat and proteins; it is also a laxative and gives a shine to feathers. Hence, it’s use in moulting mixtures and depurative mixtures. It must be used sparingly due to its properties.

 

That's a rough idea what each individual grain is.

 

Here's a link to have a look through.

http://www.versele-laga.com/Nutri/Nutrition/Pages/Products/index.jsp?lng=3&mkt=11963&fam=227&ani=-1&ran=7240&pro=-1

 

Lindsay.

[blackdog]

looks like a high protein mix to me denny

[Guest bakes]

maple peas,maiz,peas,tic beans basic yb mix prefure alot more maples in my yb mix more or less high protein mix

 

all the best

[PIGEONMAN_SEAN]

wish some one give me a few bags of that corn looks fine to me its clean thats the main thing

[Guest youngboy]

looks good anyway but me myself rather more wheat barley and other small seeds?

[Guest Denny]

Thanks Lindsay for the seed information - I am in the process of 'googleing' the different seeds in images so that I can learn what they look like.  Searching for maple peas at the mo!  

 

Unfortunatly there were no markings on the hessin sack to find out anymore about this seed.  Was a little concerned as was not sure if it was ok for the pigeons, as not feed my birds so much sweetcorn in any mix before.

 

Thanks everyone for your input - it helps me out a heck of a lot  :K)