PigeonTracker Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Every courier out there at the moment are having to turn down work because they either can't deliver to that area for lack of numbers to make it cost effective or other logistical reasons, this often means that the customer has to phone several couriers struggling to find a suitable courier. With squeaker season fast approaching and then strays, I've posted two questions that I'd be grateful if you'd answer as there can be no better advice offered than from the customer themselves. To better explain the questions here is my thoughts. A central hub, call-center, forum and more where customers can interact and post with the sole purpose of getting a delivery satisfied. Only couriers who are fanciers and have the birds at heart would be involved in the network. or Would you all prefer to simply pick your own favourite courier regardless of whether they can do the delivery or not and then go find someone else if they can't do it. Please remember that the network is not compulsory and you'll always be able to use the courier of your choice, the idea is to put the network in place just in case your courier can't do the order. There is no real need to reply to the post please simply vote for either question.
PigeonTracker Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Posted January 12, 2009 It would im my opinion ultimatly depend on who was 'In charge' of the network, someone has to organise the jobs and distribute fairly and evenly. The above is where i feel it is important for an independent to do this job, most likely with either transport management experience or a good experience of both logistics and livestock but with no connection to any of the couriers involved as at the end of the day each courier is going to try and look after their own interests first. Good point and it goes without saying that it would be done by the ones with the most resources and ALL couriers treated equally. There can be no room for favouritism when it comes to getting the birds out, they will be passed to the most suitable courier for the job in hand. To have an absolutely independant operation to take control of the calls, etc would mean a huge expense which would ultimately have to be passed on to the customer and if that is what the fancier wants then that is what they'll have to pay for.
PigeonTracker Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Posted January 12, 2009 But i dont see how it can be done fairly and treated equally as example the calls go through to 'VL couriers' who have the most resources and are the biggest, its human nature to ensure that VL would pick the jobs to suit themselves as this would save on the fuel,wear and tear, labour costs for that business. For this reason i think sticking to our own is the best, if they cant do it then we can ring another. Then all you have to do is vote that way. I agree with your concerns for what its worth but don't agree with your sceptisism regarding fair play. Sure it would be easy to cherry pick, that's what's happening now but in a disorganised way which is not beneficial to the customer. Just seeking to bring a bit of organisation to the chaos otherwise one thing is for certain, the courier system is as it stands ready for self destruction.
pigeonbaz Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 THE R.P.R.A. SHOULD RUN AND CONTROL THIS THEN IT WILL BE RUN FAIR AND SQARE
Guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 THE R.P.R.A. SHOULD RUN AND CONTROL THIS THEN IT WILL BE RUN FAIR AND SQARE My sentiments exactly. I have been saying this for a long time now.
Guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Yes agree with you as mentioned on other thread but they wont as our £4.50 wouldnt be able to cover that and the holidays lol. Well they will have to cut the holidays. 33,000 members paying £4.50 =£148,500 plus other income
gangster Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 ill do as mutch of my own movements as poss...might even start my own
Guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 I think we all do Mick to some degree or another, but not always possible. I agree, where ever possible we should all try to help ourselves and each other.
gangster Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 i would even consider weekends if birds were going both ways within reasonable distances
Guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Sad thing is Chris WE ALL KNOW THAT............. Perhaps it's time we kicked them into touch and started a Union up who CARE about the pigeon fancier, and NOT Red Tape.
Guest bigda Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 good on you gangster, a up and go getter type guy, you could do the Scots birds going up within reason, as there are courier! > saying, they dont like the scottish, or wanting to do away with scottish deliveries , for some reason :-/
ChrisMaidment08 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 mick mate go for it im sure as you are well known you will get the work without the hassel or being pestered i would like to ask who is going to run the central centre and give out the jobs to couiers and set the price they get payed and the cost to custerer and will that centre be involved in deliverys or just sat taking money for nowt and who will garantee payment to couiers in this system as if each are working or recaiveing orders from central point they cant charge their own price but im also wondering what couiers are intrested in doing this cos none that i have had contact on matters want to know about it
PigeonTracker Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Posted January 12, 2009 none that i have had contact on matters want to know about itWhich ones are they then Chris?
ChrisMaidment08 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 and try answering the questions put or shall i for you as im sure we all would like to know who is going to organise the service
PigeonTracker Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Posted January 12, 2009 As a courier of course its my business, perhaps such a rude response wasn't necessary here? :-/
ChrisMaidment08 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 hang on which one are you today cos last time it was nasty going to get police on us all or the one who was agreeing on my answers so which one are you tonight it would help for me to know so i can answer nicely or just be normal
gangster Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 good on you gangster, a up and go getter type guy, you could do the Scots birds going up within reason, as there are courier! > saying, they dont like the scottish, or wanting to do away with scottish deliveries , for some reason :-/ some of my best friends fly in scotland and are always the 1st 2 help others out...enough said!!!!!!
gangster Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 i cant see it working coz 1 will want to be boss of the others and that will stop them joining up
ChrisMaidment08 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 yes mick and lots nice scots blokes out there who want couier who likes um to
PigeonTracker Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Posted January 12, 2009 hang on which one are you today cos last time it was nasty going to get police on us all or the one who was agreeing on my answers so which one are you tonight it would help for me to know so i can answer nicely or just be normalWho's all us? Nothing more nasty than threatening to ruin a courier financially so lets not go there okay. I asked a simple question to which couriers you suggested were not interested as you'd implied, nothing more nothing less. :-/
ChrisMaidment08 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 mick mate i would recommend you to the world as decent bloke full of help and advice and most of all owe me cup tea
ChrisMaidment08 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 and as stated non of youer busness answer the decent question on youer idea for couier service and who would riun it
rembrant2coo Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 some of my best friends fly in scotland and are always the 1st 2 help others out...enough said!!!!!! When are u starting up mick ,can u start now or 3daysnotice
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