ken Posted June 8, 2009 Report Posted June 8, 2009 hi im thinking of starting a courier service from the north east into scotland any advice would be great thanks ken + im a pigeon man aswell so thats a + for me
Guest spin cycle Posted June 8, 2009 Report Posted June 8, 2009 i reckon its a hard job ...best of luck
chickadee Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 hi im thinking of starting a courier service from the north east into scotland any advice would be great thanks ken + im a pigeon man aswell so thats a + for me We looked at doing it but the networking side was a nightmare and that was just for Scotland, a few have tried and failed and it seems like the normal service now is they are doing certain areas once a week and some even once a month. The days of Amtrak are long gone where you could almost guarantee 24hr service in most parts of the UK mainland JMO Carol
chickadee Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 thanks carol You will get plenty of work but it will be hard work in the fact that you will cover loads of miles and hours doing it Good luck if you do Carol
Guest Posted June 14, 2009 Report Posted June 14, 2009 We looked at doing it but the networking side was a nightmare and that was just for Scotland, a few have tried and failed and it seems like the normal service now is they are doing certain areas once a week and some even once a month. The days of Amtrak are long gone where you could almost guarantee 24hr service in most parts of the UK mainland JMO Carol yes 100% correct and some slated them left right and center come back amtrak alls forgiven
Guest Posted June 14, 2009 Report Posted June 14, 2009 well i think if some of the couriers work together there could be a great sevice put in place, Good luck Ken i wish you all the best.......amanda
pigeonforce Posted June 14, 2009 Report Posted June 14, 2009 Alot of couriers work together to create a good service, but some refuse to do it, the reason so many courier companys go under is because they try to undercut everyone ,i set of last wednesday and didnt get back until Friday Two hotels later and 1300 miles i was back home, (For those who will comment on the pigeons been in the van that long - The pigeons were picked up and dropped off in order so only 1 pigeon spent the night in the van and it was transfered into a pannier and given food and water) MOST OF THE PIGEONS WERE STRAYS WITH NONE FANCIERS, SO PRIORITY WAS GIVEN, after working out how much i had spent on diesel, hotels and food there wasnt alot left and mine and Uk pigeon couriers are the same price £35 England, From £45 Scotland, others that advertise less must be making nothing, maybe thats why they dont stick around, and the ones that advertise at one price then charge another are out of order (only there to make extra money). All my customers were very happy and the work has piled in on recomendations alone. Any other company starting up must work along with other couriers in order to give the best service and to cause less confusion to customers, that is the only way the whole courier service will work. Get rid of the ones we know are bad and keep the good ones , any new companys starting up keep it good and you will sucseed, get the wrong name and you will fail. If you think its easy way of making money quick and easy then think again there is long hours, high miles and alot of paperwork
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted June 14, 2009 Report Posted June 14, 2009 it is maybe okay now while racing is on and a lot of birds are ones lost from racing and it will be the same when young birds are racing but how many will carry on after the racing is finished and there will maybe be the odd bird needing to go into Scotland from England or vice versa , will they still be prepared to repatriate the single birds ?
Guest numpty01 Posted June 14, 2009 Report Posted June 14, 2009 multydrops at 15quid drop around london kent then sometimes one in ipswich means lots time out and yes sometimes loss but sleeping in lorry helps the cost but haveing run round free charge for few fanciers then forget it i aint going to haul round country for 30quid bird its sueacide for anyone unless you have at least a large number birds to make it pay on a route on set days that dont happen unless you been running long time if new it cant be done
THE FIFER Posted June 14, 2009 Report Posted June 14, 2009 hi im thinking of starting a courier service from the north east into scotland any advice would be great thanks ken + im a pigeon man aswell so thats a + for me I think to make it worth while you would have to courier more than pigeons, parcels etc, as pigeons only could be difficult if you have only one bird going to a area,
pigeonforce Posted June 14, 2009 Report Posted June 14, 2009 multydrops at 15quid drop around london kent then sometimes one in ipswich means lots time out and yes sometimes loss but sleeping in lorry helps the cost but haveing run round free charge for few fanciers then forget it i aint going to haul round country for 30quid bird its sueacide for anyone unless you have at least a large number birds to make it pay on a route on set days that dont happen unless you been running long time if new it cant be done Your right what you say you need alot of the work in a run to make it pay, some people think that prices are too steep, they couldnt be any lower the price of everything is going up Diesel, insurance, tax, people need to realise this. its not as easy as people think.
pigeonforce Posted June 14, 2009 Report Posted June 14, 2009 I think to make it worth while you would have to courier more than pigeons, parcels etc, as pigeons only could be difficult if you have only one bird going to a area, The only thing with taking parcels and pigeons is Pigeon fanciers dont like it ( what happens of a parcel falls onto a pigeon box) its a danger and could end up costing you alot of money in compensation,
Guest numpty01 Posted June 14, 2009 Report Posted June 14, 2009 Your right what you say you need alot of the work in a run to make it pay, some people think that prices are too steep, they couldnt be any lower the price of everything is going up Diesel, insurance, tax, people need to realise this. its not as easy as people think. when youer fuel bill comes in at monthly dates and the driver has to be paid you find you make or lose money i have always been amused that peaple think you have transport company youer loaded yes you can make money but most time youer breaking even or running loss now birds at 30for 4 is fine if say you have 5 deliverys within 100miles circle but how often does that happen
pigeonforce Posted June 14, 2009 Report Posted June 14, 2009 "when youer fuel bill comes in at monthly dates and the driver has to be paid you find you make or lose money i have always been amused that peaple think you have transport company youer loaded yes you can make money but most time youer breaking even or running loss now birds at 30for 4 is fine if say you have 5 deliverys within 100miles circle but how often does that happen"[/color] Well said Numpty, id say you get not alot of them within 50 miles
THE FIFER Posted June 14, 2009 Report Posted June 14, 2009 The only thing with taking parcels and pigeons is Pigeon fanciers dont like it ( what happens of a parcel falls onto a pigeon box) its a danger and could end up costing you alot of money in compensation, AMTRAK carried parcels and many other items, could have a wire cage or something to put bird boxes in, its for cost as pigeons only cant possibly pay,
Guest numpty01 Posted June 14, 2009 Report Posted June 14, 2009 AMTRAK carried parcels and many other items, could have a wire cage or something to put bird boxes in, its for cost as pigeons only cant possibly pay, yes fifer and if you go back to the old days of amtrac i saw no posts on here saying and complaing they carry other things apart from our birds now tho everyone wants couiers to carry nothing but pigeons cant be done never will be thats true fact life
pigeonforce Posted June 14, 2009 Report Posted June 14, 2009 yes fifer and if you go back to the old days of amtrac i saw no posts on here saying and complaing they carry other things apart from our birds now tho everyone wants couiers to carry nothing but pigeons cant be done never will be thats true fact life Its a fact its hard to only carry pigeons and not parcels but if thats what the customers now want then thats what they have to get , you loose customers by not giving them what they want you loose your business,
Guest numpty01 Posted June 14, 2009 Report Posted June 14, 2009 Its a fact its hard to only carry pigeons and not parcels but if thats what the customers now want then thats what they have to get , you loose customers by not giving them what they want you loose your business, sorry but i dont agree as the costermer wont pay the price take carrying steel coils now 200quid to london per load from wales if custermer was to pay 300 then they would not be happy you have van on as well but with birds how can you carry just birds ??you cant as stated how many couiers will collect bird come end season for me from london drop it here for 30quid none so if fanciers want only birds in vans then they pay the rate for the milage and the cost that wont happen
pigeonforce Posted June 14, 2009 Report Posted June 14, 2009 The charge wont change throughout the season it will still be £35 for up to 3 birds and £2 there after, and the service will still be the same , lets see how many couriers increase there charges over the next couple of months and lets see how many are still around in January. Im here to do it because i enjoy doing it and meeting all the good pigeon fanciers giving them the service i would expect myself. Good luck to all other couriers that are going on strong or just starting up. Time will tell
Guest numpty01 Posted June 14, 2009 Report Posted June 14, 2009 best luck in the bussness and i hope you go from strengh to strengh i wont do it thats for sure ;D ;D
pigeonforce Posted June 14, 2009 Report Posted June 14, 2009 best luck in the bussness and i hope you go from strengh to strengh i wont do it thats for sure ;D ;D numpty i have heard you do a good job, good luck to you too
Guest numpty01 Posted June 14, 2009 Report Posted June 14, 2009 on birds i only do it for peaple if im going there and free other wise not chance in hell but other side me yes we have good name and thanks
Guest Posted June 14, 2009 Report Posted June 14, 2009 WHY DO IT IF YOU CANT EARN OUT OF IT,SOMETHING WRONG HERE :-/
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