Whats the advantage of breeding early?

[demolition man]

So what advantage do you get from breeding early,

[adam owen]

i spose its all out of the way before racing i think its just more corn bills wiv early ybs also if you dnt train them early and keep it going they go dull

[shoortie]

more ybs from your best! plus you have sexually mature ybs for racing! altho you have to start them earlier

[Guest bigbok]

young birds become adults when it matters

[adam owen]

all the best flyers in my area fed ect who win nationals regular dnt breed early if they are on darkness ect they will be sexually acted by racing anyway

[waltzer]

more corn to pay for as from what my dad and brother have said there second and third round young have been there better birds ,but now a lot of young are on the widowhood system and more mature for the longer races

[shoortie]

all top sprint men will rear early! plus they dont need darkened

[adam owen]

i found the early ones which was on natrual dark started there 2nd moult alot earlyer as they were off it by march

[catchthepigeon]

Theres no advantages to breeding early its just more work and money

[demolition man]

i found the early ones which was on natrual dark started there 2nd moult alot earlyer as they were off it by march

 

 

did they hold there wing?

 

[adam owen]

yes they did some dropped one at most but the body was too bad to race them wen the nationals came in september

[demolition man]

all top sprint men will rear early! plus they dont need darkened

 

yea but whats the advantage any idea ;D

[adam owen]

i cant see it to be onest

[catchthepigeon]

i rear late it saves on the feeding bill and petrol bill when u have to train them earlier aswell i will also add my bird have held there own with early bred and darkness birds so what exactly is the advantages to breeding early

[Guest IB]

i rear late it saves on the feeding bill and petrol bill when u have to train them earlier aswell i will also add my bird have held there own with early bred and darkness birds so what exactly is the advantages to breeding early

 

When you say you rear late, when is it you pair up?

[Guest rodders]

upto this year iv allways raced late march - april yb,s but had chance of some well bred ybs cheap and bought them and they was in my loft end of jan begining of feb and to be honest even tho my own bred yb,s raced well these early bred showed them the way home and have gone staight thro moult better than my own so i am pairing earlier this year

[adam owen]

did u train them early or with your others

[demolition man]

upto this year iv allways raced late march - april yb,s but had chance of some well bred ybs cheap and bought them and they was in my loft end of jan begining of feb and to be honest even tho my own bred yb,s raced well these early bred showed them the way home and have gone staight thro moult better than my own so i am pairing earlier this year

 

Did you put these on the dark?

 

 

[Guest Owen]

I think the biggest draw back in breeding early is that Fanciers tend to delay training. Young birds need to be trained at the correct time and not allowed to mature. If they become sexually mature they will loose interest in exercising, as they should.

The Belgiums breed early because many of them concentrate on just young bird racing and do not have to try to train and race old birds at the same time. Besides, the average Belgium Fancier keeps a lot less pigeons that either the British or the Dutch. The ones who are selling large numbers of birds over here are glorified studs and breed birds for sale.

I see no benefits in breeding early particularly if you are going to use the darkness system. The birds will become sexually active in plenty of time for the races. And as Adam has said the best Fanciers winning in this area at National and Open level do not breed early.

And most of them specialise in the longer races from over the Channel.

I have lost interest in young bird racing and I will not be taking an active part in it this year. In fact I will only rear 20/25 for myself, any more will have to go. I will just train them hard and compete in the later races so that the birds can be tested properly.  

[kirky]

ive found that early ybs when thay hit a bad race are on the loft top the next morning, later bred ybs you dont see again.

[Guest rodders]

 

Did you put these on the dark?

 

once we got to 10-12 hrs daylight i put on dark till 10th of june as for training never started till 3 weeks before 1st race then they only had 4 tosses upto 40 miles as i belive to much can make them lose interest

 

 

[Guest ROCKYandRAMBO]

i think the advantage is you have to feed them longer . you have to start training earlyer . you have to either work nights or dont work at all lol because it will be dark when you first wean them and you will need to get them out but if you work 9 to 5 you wont get time to let them out , there bred in the cold so no where near as well reared as spring or summer babys , a lot of older cocks will not fill there eggs see theres loads of advantages

[sammy]

yi keep all the corn merchants in a job

[Guest IB]

How does breeding in December affect the old bird moult? When would the OBs throw their first flight?

[Guest bigbok]

ive found that early ybs when thay hit a bad race are on the loft top the next morning, later bred ybs you dont see again.

 

this makes a lot of sense to me