owen101 Posted February 18, 2010 Report Posted February 18, 2010 which members have yellows and breed yellows if so what breed are they
OLDYELLOW Posted February 18, 2010 Report Posted February 18, 2010 Kirkpatrick , Sion and Grooters all have yellow in there birds
budgie Posted February 18, 2010 Report Posted February 18, 2010 Kirkpatrick , Sion and Grooters all have yellow in there birds Are the Yellows any good and do you know of any present day fanciers winning with them.
Guest stb- Posted February 18, 2010 Report Posted February 18, 2010 Are the Yellows any good and do you know of any present day fanciers winning with them. Have never seen anyone win with them yellows in nearly 40 years apart from the showracer ones :o a suppose the 98% rule applies 2 in a hundred so there wont be many
greenlands Posted February 18, 2010 Report Posted February 18, 2010 Had a cracking hen a few years ago ,got her off the late George Gorley.Vandie. Lindsay
OLDYELLOW Posted February 18, 2010 Report Posted February 18, 2010 Are the Yellows any good and do you know of any present day fanciers winning with them. Wally Pope had lovely yellow Grooters which would win , alas hes no longer with us and you never see any advertised or in results , a few Yellow kirkpatricks have won, one a few years ago won if not topped UNC , My Old Yellow cock won 1st and 2nd Bourge 512 miles was 2nd as a yearling 1st as a two year old plus was 6th from other 3 channel points two years on trot plus 4th wanstead flats , Kirkpaticks and the other strains arent in strains anymore so less end up in results , the yellows can have alot of defects with there sight and shape of eyes or albinos which have red eyes and are blind so not a colour i've ever had great favour for however i can breed yellows without these defects by not pairing yellows to yellows , i tend to breed far more hens that are yellow than cocks and racing widowhood i've no need to race the hens very few yellows about now that can actualy race i spent thousands at a big stud aquiring my Kirkpatrick family and whittle them down just to a few winners which i bred around , due to moving about havent had much time to put into the birds but these will win again , they won me combined adverages first year i flew widowhood and highest prize winner in club , and channel adverages year after missed one yb race and highest prize winner in club , i have retain my lines and these are still in my current loft they've won for others up to 3rd fed in Ayrshire in Scottland and have topped section for me and been 6th fed not just pretty but reliable birds
owen101 Posted February 18, 2010 Author Report Posted February 18, 2010 how much would 1 or 2 pair of l/b cost
OLDYELLOW Posted February 18, 2010 Report Posted February 18, 2010 i cant guarentee colour however i have a yellow on nest now with a bronze which is via son of Old Yellow
Guest stb- Posted February 18, 2010 Report Posted February 18, 2010 have a few Kirkpatricks have you any of them old yellows Archie
Guest vander mungo Posted February 18, 2010 Report Posted February 18, 2010 louella used to sell yellows at blackpool show,don,t remember seeing them selling many in recent years .maybe no feedback with good results, or maybe they don,t have them anymore.
owen101 Posted February 18, 2010 Author Report Posted February 18, 2010 looked at blackpool tis year only saw 2
Guest vander mungo Posted February 18, 2010 Report Posted February 18, 2010 were the 2 you saw on sale buy louella owen, if so they would be kilpatricks
owen101 Posted February 18, 2010 Author Report Posted February 18, 2010 no they were for sale by jaap van aalphen
OLDYELLOW Posted February 18, 2010 Report Posted February 18, 2010 Old Yellow his great grand children :
THE FIFER Posted February 18, 2010 Report Posted February 18, 2010 will try and get some photos, they are yellow
Guest Freebird Posted February 18, 2010 Report Posted February 18, 2010 A yellow is a dilute red. The only difference between a dilute bird and a non dilute bird is the amount of pigment in the colour, a dilute having around half the pigment of a non dilute so I can't see why they should'nt be as good as any non dilute bird. True silvers are dilute blue. Dun is dilute black. The silvers the racing fanciers know are dilute brown ( I think!). If you want to breed yellows you must first get a dilute bird or a bird that carries dilute and breed it with another. Some birds carry dilute as you need two doses for it to show and if they have been bred from a non dilute/dilute pair they will only have one dose and therefore will be non dilute but carry it. I think the faults old yellow is talking about must have come about with line breeding to get the dilute factor. Best not to over do the in/line breeding in any animals. So just get yourself a bird or better still two (quicker) that carries the dilute factor and bobs your uncle. I have yellow tumblers and have bred youngsters from them with no problems what so ever. Have fun! (smarty2)
Guest vander mungo Posted February 18, 2010 Report Posted February 18, 2010 don,t know this man,did you buy them. rememember the legend kilpatricks came from abroad.
Guest stb- Posted February 18, 2010 Report Posted February 18, 2010 I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE A BETTER CHANCE WITH A DILUTE BRED FROM NORMAL CARRIER PAIRS , THINK A LOT ARE MANUFACTURED FOR THE COLOUR WITH NO REGARD TO PERFORMANCE
owen101 Posted February 18, 2010 Author Report Posted February 18, 2010 don,t know this man,did you buy them. rememember the legend kilpatricks came from abroad. yes brought them both from him was told he had a sale in newmains coming up
OLDYELLOW Posted February 18, 2010 Report Posted February 18, 2010 A yellow is a dilute red. The only difference between a dilute bird and a non dilute bird is the amount of pigment in the colour, a dilute having around half the pigment of a non dilute so I can't see why they should'nt be as good as any non dilute bird. True silvers are dilute blue. Dun is dilute black. The silvers the racing fanciers know are dilute brown ( I think!). If you want to breed yellows you must first get a dilute bird or a bird that carries dilute and breed it with another. Some birds carry dilute as you need two doses for it to show and if they have been bred from a non dilute/dilute pair they will only have one dose and therefore will be non dilute but carry it. I think the faults old yellow is talking about must have come about with line breeding to get the dilute factor. Best not to over do the in/line breeding in any animals. So just get yourself a bird or better still two (quicker) that carries the dilute factor and bobs your uncle. I have yellow tumblers and have bred youngsters from them with no problems what so ever. Have fun! (smarty2) the defects werent through line breeding and two yellows starts to breed pieds and gay pieds not full yellows best yellows are from reds
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