CRAZY IDEA???

[wings]

If you going to send them on the transporter and liberate them, I would sugest that they are liberated 10 min after the main lib and kept in a seperate basket.

If they are liberated with the rest they will follow the batch instead of thinking for themself and trying to find home.

 

Phil

 

Excellent idea Spin, it seems from some of the comments that it will not suit all for on reason or another, though with everyone haveing to tighten there purse strings any way of getting your birds home would help. I think the above qoute from phil is a must if this were to go ahead at some point in the future. I travel to Scotland every mondat morning and last week i liberated 7 pigeons in diferant areas onthe way up, i must say 5 of them were brought to me by other fanciers. And i know that at least 3 of them got home safely, 3 happy people, as i say any way to help get birds back to the rightfull owner cannot be a bad idea.

[Merlin]

 

 

The simplest thing in the World is to knock something,pick holes in it,without any alternative being offered regarding the stray problem,cost of repatriation appears to be the main crux,it neednt be,already on any given week end we have transporters criss crosing the Country,and returning empty,get the Unions to set up and man Regional stray centers,with the empty transporters picking up strays for their own Regions,whenever passing ,or in proximity,right away you remove the cost of transport.,would imagine returns would be better liberated nearer home,no issues re being carried with race birds,select sites on geographical positions,possibily 10 or 12 would be sufficient to cover all,with strays being inter changed on a regular weekl basis.

[Ronnie]

Just the racing part of the idea i didnt like.

[Merlin]

I would think possbily along the same lines as yourself as for racing them Ronnie,as it might possibily be counter productive to getting birds returned to owners,and create even more issues than solving.

[Fair Play]

I like the idea, sure it could well be tightened up but just think of all the £30 quids it could save

[Guest spin cycle]

thanks for all the replies..it seems about 50/50..good/bad . there are problems one of which is ets rings ( how to know whether training /racing etc) . the thing about letting them be raced is to 'reward' the fancier for dealing with the stray..after all he (or she) has had to get the bird 'fit to race' and pay birdage...if therefore the occasional 1 comes home well where's the harm ? i don't think the uptake on the scheme would be huge...but it might help. it may also make those fanciers who don't wingstamp do so as i bet those would be the ones who complain the loudest about having their birds raced by someone else. i'm trying to figure out the problems....mainly for fun as i don't think it has a realistic chance but thanks also for keeping it friendly

[Guest slugmonkey]

I agree with Darky a crazy idea is a LOT better than No idea

[Guest]

i dont think its as bad as some may think as spin says a cheat is a cheat all we can do is try and find them out and as for the birds bieng sick good point but lets face some fanciers either knowingly or not put sick birds in the baskets every year and it would take a very very good basket convener to pick them up why do we pigeon fanciers keep trying to make things hard for our self lets face it it is imposible to guard against all the points raised above but it could let us help to solve our stray prob ourself no costs only my opinion

[Pompey Mick]

At the moment the RPRA have a 14day  clearance rule on transfers, this is understandable in the case of show birds but could be looked at in respect of racing pigeons.

When an unstamped pigeon enters my loft I usually liberate it away from the loft after giving it a suitable amount of rest and recuperation.

If it returns then it is taken a greater  distance and liberated.  After a couple of these tosses it becomes obvious you are training the bird and it has no intention of returning home under its own power.

In these cases it would help if the bird can be quickly transferred and  legitimately raced.

Perhaps this could be done via the RPRA  Strays Email section, if they added a  tick box.  I.E.  'will keep if transferred'.

Then the owner on receipt of the Email could then sanction the transfer of the bird to the finder by reply to the RPRA who would sanction the transfer of this pigeon back to the finder.

Obviously this system would only work well if both parties have Email facilities, but it would speed up the process.

If a bird is wingstamped then the owner would have to be contacted personally, and if required the above process could be utilised.

I'm pretty sure with the computerisation at the RPRA this whole process could be performed electronically and if the bird is transferred then I'm sure any fancier would only send it if he was confident of getting it home.

[Guest spin cycle]

At the moment the RPRA have a 14day  clearance rule on transfers, this is understandable in the case of show birds but could be looked at in respect of racing pigeons.

When an unstamped pigeon enters my loft I usually liberate it away from the loft after giving it a suitable amount of rest and recuperation.

If it returns then it is taken a greater  distance and liberated.  After a couple of these tosses it becomes obvious you are training the bird and it has no intention of returning home under its own power.

In these cases it would help if the bird can be quickly transferred and  legitimately raced.

Perhaps this could be done via the RPRA  Strays Email section, if they added a  tick box.  I.E.  'will keep if transferred'.

Then the owner on receipt of the Email could then sanction the transfer of the bird to the finder by reply to the RPRA who would sanction the transfer of this pigeon back to the finder.

Obviously this system would only work well if both parties have Email facilities, but it would speed up the process.

If a bird is wingstamped then the owner would have to be contacted personally, and if required the above process could be utilised.

I'm pretty sure with the computerisation at the RPRA this whole process could be performed electronically and if the bird is transferred then I'm sure any fancier would only send it if he was confident of getting it home.

 

good idea to use strays e mail service but really only want a 'temporary' transfer to allow a chance of getting bird back to original loft. i managed to get 1 stray home today but 2 more homed back to me(dizzy)..of the 3 i've now 1 is from cambs. another from berwick....on sat we are from sleaford and dunbar...hence my idea.

[jimmy white]

i would say a good idea,, with a little tidying up   with some set rules