Guest Paulo Posted November 12, 2008 Report Posted November 12, 2008 For more detail on birds for sale see:- http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1223402329/
Guest Paulo Posted November 12, 2008 Report Posted November 12, 2008 Oh yes i forgot you got one of the Van-Reets I had. Ill have to pop over one weekend to see the birds no worries whenever
Guest j.bamling Posted November 12, 2008 Report Posted November 12, 2008 Well done paul much more to come next year mate !!!
Guest Paulo Posted November 12, 2008 Report Posted November 12, 2008 Well done paul much more to come next year mate !!! Cheers mate same for you I reckon next year will be a good one for you back in the durham combine. Was great being runner up to the young bird averages but i want to win them next year! lol
Guest Paulo Posted November 19, 2008 Report Posted November 19, 2008 Klaks all gone. As have Gabys. Got busschaerts, Willy Thas etc left or mixed bags for £120 for six or will sell indivudually Thanks to those people who have placed orders already
Guest Paulo Posted December 2, 2008 Report Posted December 2, 2008 Just brought 3 new hens this weekend off one of my contacts to pair up to selected cocks in my widowhood team that have prizes themselves. These hens are:- 1. Van Loon bred off Direct Planet Bro's birds 2. Van Loon x Busschaert direct Helm & Knox - Prudhoe bird. This hen won a 1st fed, 1st club being raced as a YB only and then has been used as a widowhood hen. 3. Busschaert - direct Helm & Knox - Prudhoe bird. This hen was on the clock every week when it raced as a YB. Again used as a widowhood hen as her owner is a widowhood specialist.
Guest Paulo Posted December 2, 2008 Report Posted December 2, 2008 Putting Orginal advert in as can't post on that anymore I offer the fancy 2009 bred young birds from the 2nd and 3rd rounds of my stock birds and racing team. I started flying young birds only in 2007 and this year 2008 is my first full season with old birds and young birds. I have had a really successful year and despite only being a novice and learning the ropes have won the following prizes:- 2007 Young Birds on Natural Only 1 x 1st Club 2008 Old Birds Flown on Natural System Only 2 x 1st Clubs 1 x 3rd Club Fastest Vel in Amal 1 x 1st Fed 1 x 8th Fed 1 x 5th Fed Young Birds Darkness System 2 x 1st Clubs 2 x 3rd clubs 2 x 4th club 1 x 3rd fed I am not a mob flyer being a young lad who works full time and is also doing a building surveying degree through work I don't have time to mob fly! I send on average 12 old birds a race and around 23 young birds a race. My two best performances of this year have proven I don?t need numbers. These are:- Old Bird From the WDA race to Huntingdon (178 miles) 5,056 birds I sent a total of 6 birds and won the following positions:- My good hen the raggster won the following:- Fastest Bird in WDA on the Day (This bird would have topped the Amal if it had been a proper Amal race) 1st Fed, 1st club The raggster also won 5th Fed, 1st club from WDA first old bird race from Wakefield. Not bad for a hen that is a yearling and only had two races as an YB and just 4 old bird races this year. She won the club by 15 minutes. To prove it wasn?t a fluke I also won, with a direct Mike Lycett Gaby hen:- 8th Fed, 3rd club Young Bird From the WDA Young Bird National Billericay (233 miles), 6,000 (approx) birds I sent a total of 23 birds and won the following:- Flash a direct son of the raggster won the following 3rd Fed, 1st club At the time of writing Flash?s WDA position for this race is unknown. The only two birds to beat him in the fed were raced by Hodgson, Son and Cowie who are top flyers in the WDA. These two birds are both in the top 20 of the WDA which has been published on their website. http://www.wdapigeons.co.uk I have heard verbally from the fed sec that he has seen the top hundred and thinks my bird is roughly 26th WDA. Hopefully these results will be published soon. Flash won the club by 10 minutes proving he takes after his mam. To prove it wasn?t a fluke I also won, with a Van Loon x Direct Martin Ali cock:- 4th club. This cock also won the first young bird race and has been on the clock most weeks. I keep the following strains:- Busschaert. Martin Ali, Ian Metcalf, Ray Forbes Gaby Vandebeele, Direct Mike Lycett Van Loons. Ponderosa Staff Van Reets. From top flyers in Durham Combine Frans Van Wildermersch. From various top flyers Jos Throne. Ian Stafford brought through 3rd party Willy Thas - Jimmy Bambling Klak Janssens. Tommy Napper If you want the following you have come to the right place:- Good honest birds that win Birds at a fair price Strong healthy birds no crap sent out Birds I race myself If you want the following you have come to the wrong place:- Fancy Pedigrees By the above I mean birds that look good on paper yet they won?t win. I?ll do any buyer a simple pedigree but I'd rather not bother to be honest unless they insist on one cause I think they are a pile of crap myself and birds should be brought and bred off performance pigeons Most of the top flyers I've brought from don?t supply pedigrees half the time and just tell you roughly what the bird is bred off. If they win that?s good enough for me! I don't normally believe in selling birds but as a young lad who flies on his own and won?t earn decent money until I?m qualified in my profession I have found pigeon racing to be a very expensive sport to be a part of.. I am selling birds not to make a profit but simply to help pay some of my corn and diesel bill so I can have the odd night out in a while and still send to every race because I love the sport and competing too much. I haven?t won as much as many fliers on here but I have won quite a bit for a novice against very strong competion. 3 fliers in our fed have won the WDA multiple times! If I can win with these birds so can you! I have just killed a large part of my stock team because they haven?t come up to scratch and have replaced these birds with proven stock birds. These birds where brought privately from a top fancier called Ian Metcalf. Ian has flown in both the WDA and Durham Combine and been a hard man to beat both at club and fed level against top fliers such as Curry and Young. Ian has packed in the sport due to ill health and I was lucky to have the chance to buy proven stock birds from him these birds have won prizes themselves both in club and fed and bred winners. I hope to establish my loft on this fine stock and surpass my results of this season. Despite Ian?s ill health he won the young bird averages in the club last year 2007 and also won positions in the club this year. Now the important thing the price! £30.00 a YB from the stock pigeons £25.00 a YB from the race team £120.00 for six YBs Cheaper than Louella Carriage will be paid by purchaser at current rates You can have either your own rings on the birds or mine whatever suits you. £20.00 quid deposit reserves your order Just to clarify the £120 for six is for YB's both from the racers and the stock. Like Tescos I give you more bang for your dollar!!! Well got to beat the credit crunch anyway! I also breed on Bamfords Breed & Wean and use gemphanax for breeding. No expense spared you can't feed YB's you are hoping to be champs crap you get out what you put in!
Guest Paulo Posted December 16, 2008 Report Posted December 16, 2008 Just made some new additions to the team. Went to John KcKeowns entire clearance at Belmont club and brought lots 13 and 39 Blue Hen Debbie 08-360 Winner 1st Club, 5th Fed Wetherby Sire:- 07NW3605, 2nd Melton Mowbray, son Bernard, 2 x 1sts, 30th and 76th UNC Lillers & Clermont, 5th and 6th Clermont and Lillers x 04NW1407, 1st Worksop,1st maidstone, 2nd Harlow Dam:- 07NW3623, dam of winner, daughter Ian Axe de Prut, brother to sire of Lodge Star, 1st UNC Bourges 2006 x 02TN5067 dam of club and fed winners including Lodge Star himself Blue Cock, 07-3613, winner 4th Melton Mowbray Sire:- 06-2726 bred by Porter and Stevens breeding of Pouw Bros x Village Lad Dam:- Old Pep, dam of many winners pure Janssen
jack Posted December 16, 2008 Report Posted December 16, 2008 how many birds race in your club each week and how many were in the fed when you won it
Guest Paulo Posted December 16, 2008 Report Posted December 16, 2008 Hi Jack each week we normally have 200 birds in the club sometimes a lot more when its young bird races. As for the fed its normally around 500 birds again a lot higher when its young bird races but most weeks we generally hit around 500 When I won the fed my bird beat 5,056 birds as it also achieved the fastest vel in the WDA which had 5,056 birds sent that race. When I was 3rd fed I also ended up 26th Amal out of 6,000 birds. Which means the bird has beat 5,974 birds. If you look through this thread you will see I have scanned clippings in from the BHW to verify my performances. I race in County Durham in the WDA which is widely renowned along with the rest of the North East of England as one of the hotbeds of pigeon racing in England. Along the member of our club and fed, 6 have topped the amal before. 3 of these men have topped it on multiple occasions. Its a hard club and fed for a novice to start racing in but after one and a half seasons. I think I'm starting to learn what birds are what and my results against much more experienced men are good. Any more questions fire away and I'll do my best to answer them? Any more questions
Guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Posted December 16, 2008 Hi Jack each week we normally have 200 birds in the club sometimes a lot more when its young bird races. As for the fed its normally around 500 birds again a lot higher when its young bird races but most weeks we generally hit around 500 When I won the fed my bird beat 5,056 birds as it also achieved the fastest vel in the WDA which had 5,056 birds sent that race. When I was 3rd fed I also ended up 26th Amal out of 6,000 birds. Which means the bird has beat 5,974 birds. If you look through this thread you will see I have scanned clippings in from the BHW to verify my performances. I race in County Durham in the WDA which is widely renowned along with the rest of the North East of England as one of the hotbeds of pigeon racing in England. Along the member of our club and fed, 6 have topped the amal before. 3 of these men have topped it on multiple occasions. Its a hard club and fed for a novice to start racing in but after one and a half seasons. I think I'm starting to learn what birds are what and my results against much more experienced men are good. Any more questions fire away and I'll do my best to answer them? Any more questions aye,whats for dinner (evil)
Guest Paulo Posted December 16, 2008 Report Posted December 16, 2008 some top men who fly in the WDA who you may have heard of are:- 1. Ian Stafford 2. Vince Meadows 3. Caine Brothers 4. Nelson and Hall 5. Helm and Knox Prudhoe 6. Paul Stobbs 7. Wade Brothers I could go on and on people from all over the country buy their pigeons especially Ian Staffords
Guest Paulo Posted December 16, 2008 Report Posted December 16, 2008 aye,whats for dinner (evil) chips and gravey from the canteen I spent all my crimbo bonus at John Mckeowns sale in my quest for superior pigeon lol
jack Posted December 16, 2008 Report Posted December 16, 2008 very well done pal hope you do even better this year
Guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Posted December 16, 2008 chips and gravey from the canteen I spent all my crimbo bonus at John Mckeowns sale in my quest for superior pigeon lol i'm on my way keep me some lol
Guest Paulo Posted December 16, 2008 Report Posted December 16, 2008 very well done pal hope you do even better this year Thanks mate same for you. Just looking forward to breeding the most as my fave time of year when you are looking at all the pairings and working your breeding pair out. This year I'll be in a much stronger position than my first year when I just had a mixed bag of gift birds and birds I brought form the likes of herman beaverdam. Learnt my lesson no big dealers or breeders just racing men and entire clearance sales only!
Guest anto Posted December 16, 2008 Report Posted December 16, 2008 nice flying paulo well done mate good numbers 2
Guest Paulo Posted December 16, 2008 Report Posted December 16, 2008 i'm on my way keep me some lol went for the sorrento chicken and chips lol very tasty
BLACK W F Posted December 16, 2008 Report Posted December 16, 2008 paulo how did the sale go last night as i have not spoken to John or Davie who helped john out with the sale what ever you bought will be the right gear as john s motto was there are only 2 types of racing pigeons the ones that score and the ones that breed the rest just make up numbers eat corn and crap i hope they do you some good cheers Alan
Guest Paulo Posted December 17, 2008 Report Posted December 17, 2008 paulo how did the sale go last night as i have not spoken to John or Davie who helped john out with the sale what ever you bought will be the right gear as john s motto was there are only 2 types of racing pigeons the ones that score and the ones that breed the rest just make up numbers eat corn and crap i hope they do you some good cheers Alan Went really well mate all losts were sold. Lots of people there as well having the crack Good prices being made as well which is good for John as it takes a lifetime to build a team up like that. Still must be hard for him to see them all go. He looked a bit upset when the hammer fell on the last lot. I was over the moon as got my two lots fairly cheap compared to what some people paid. I just set a price in my head what I was prepared to pay and stuck to my guns. I didn't get the birds with the most fancy pedigrees or strains but at the end of the day one has a club win and a 5th fed and one has a 4th club from a fairly long race. Hen is probably better but I'll give the cock a fair whirl as well. Loooking forward to breeding off them as need some good channel birds to strengthen my team a bit. Johns birds seem to be multipurpose as well as they have won short races. I understand de pruts are just a type of klak janssen so they should maybe cross in ok with the klaks I've got as well. Going to pair the hen up to a young cock I'll be racing on widowhood who has won 1 x 1st Club, 1x 3rd fed and 1 x 4th club. Going to pair the cock up to one of my natural racing hens that has won 3rd club , 8th fed Then next year pair the cock up to the hen and bred a few young un's off Johns own breed then try and settle the hen to race her.
Guest Paulo Posted January 29, 2009 Report Posted January 29, 2009 here's some pictures. To kick off with Ali P and his hen. Ali P is bred off a direct Martin Ali Busschaert off one of Martin's combine winners and a Van Loon hen that topped the fed for its previous owner. Ali P is a 08 pigeon and was on the clock every week as a young bird and won the following positions:- 1 x 1st Club from Wakefield first race 1 x 4th Club out of the YB National from Billicay The hen is a Van Loon hen and is a 07 pigeon it narrowly missed out on a few fed positions this year by a few seconds each time beaten on the overfly every time. My loft location is rubbish.
Guest Paulo Posted January 29, 2009 Report Posted January 29, 2009 More race team birds. Grizzle hen is a 07 pigeon and was brought direct off Ian Metcalf who was a top flyer the WDA. Ian had his entire clearance last year and never advertised I brought a lot of hen's best birds. Ian was also mates with a lot of top pigeon men like Helm and Knox, Stafford etc etc. This hen is bred off one of Ian Staffords Jos Throne grizzles paired up with one of Hodgeson Son and Cowies best stock cocks. This hen was only raced as a YB in 07 when Ian won the young bird averages in the club. She has won 2 x 1sts at club level and got fed positions as well. her best race was out of the YB National from Wanstead Flats that year when she won the club and got a 3rd fed. The cock she is paired to is bred from direct Mike Lycett Gaby Vandabeeles that I have at stock. These pigeons have already bred me winners in only their second year of breeding in my stock loft.
Guest Paulo Posted January 29, 2009 Report Posted January 29, 2009 This is my cock Flash and his hen Debbie for this year. Flash is a 08 cock and has won the following:- 1 x 1st Club out of YB National Billicay 1 X 4th Club out of Newark 1 x 3rd Fed out of YB National Billicay 26th WDA out of YB National Billicay He is a direct son of my best pigeon the Raggster who has won numerous positions including fastest bird in the amal out of Huntingdon race The hen was brought from John McKeown of Lodge Stars fame entire clearance sale. The hen is called debbie has a pedigree from John and has won the following:- 1 x 1st Club 1 x 5th Fed
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