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I offer the fancy 2009 bred young birds from the 2nd and 3rd rounds of my stock birds and racing team. I started flying young birds only in 2007 and this year 2008 is my first full season with old birds and young birds. I have had a really successful year and despite only being a novice and learning the ropes have won the following prizes:-

2007 Young Birds on Natural Only

1 x 1st Club


2008

Old Birds Flown on Natural System Only

2 x 1st Clubs

1 x 3rd Club

Fastest Vel in Amal

1 x 1st Fed

1 x 8th Fed

1 x 5th Fed


Young Birds Darkness System

2 x 1st Clubs

2 x 3rd clubs

2 x 4th club

1 x 3rd fed

I am not a mob flyer being a young lad who works full time and is also doing a building surveying degree through work I don’t have time to mob fly! I send on average 12 old birds a race and around 23 young birds a race.

My two best performances of this year have proven I don’t need numbers. These are:-

Old Bird

From the WDA race to Huntingdon (178 miles) 5,056 birds I sent a total of 6 birds and won the following positions:-

My good hen the raggster won the following:-

Fastest Bird in WDA on the Day (This bird would have topped the Amal if it had been a proper Amal race)

1st Fed, 1st club

The raggster also won 5th Fed, 1st club from WDA first old bird race from Wakefield. Not bad for a hen that is a yearling and only had two races as an YB and just 4 old bird races this year. She won the club by 15 minutes.

To prove it wasn’t a fluke I also won, with a direct Mike Lycett Gaby hen:-

8th Fed, 3rd club


Young Bird

From the WDA Young Bird National Billericay (233 miles), 6,000 (approx) birds I sent a total of 23 birds and won the following:-

Flash a direct son of the raggster won the following

3rd Fed, 1st club

At the time of writing Flash’s WDA position for this race is unknown. The only two birds to beat him in the fed were raced by Hodgson, Son and Cowie who are top flyers in the WDA. These two birds are both in the top 20 of the WDA which has been published on their website. http://www.wdapigeons.co.uk

I have heard verbally from the fed sec that he has seen the top hundred and thinks my bird is roughly 26th WDA. Hopefully these results will be published soon. Flash won the club by 10 minutes proving he takes after his mam.

To prove it wasn’t a fluke I also won, with a Van Loon x Direct Martin Ali cock:-

4th club. This cock also won the first young bird race and has been on the clock most weeks.

I keep the following strains:-

Busschaert. Martin Ali, Ian Metcalf, Ray Forbes

Gaby Vandebeele, Direct Mike Lycett

Van Loons. Ponderosa

Staff Van Reets. From top flyers in Durham Combine

Frans Van Wildermersch. From various top flyers

Jos Throne. Ian Stafford brought through 3rd party

Willy Thas - Jimmy Bambling

Klak Janssens. Tommy Napper

If you want the following you have come to the right place:-

Good honest birds that win

Birds at a fair price

Strong healthy birds no crap sent out

Birds I race myself

If you want the following you have come to the wrong place:-

Fancy Pedigrees

By the above I mean birds that look good on paper yet they won’t win. I’ll do any buyer a simple pedigree but I’d rather not bother to be honest unless they insist on one cause I think they are a pile of crap myself and birds should be brought and bred off performance pigeons Most of the top flyers I’ve brought from don’t supply pedigrees half the time and just tell you roughly what the bird is bred off. If they win that’s good enough for me!

I don’t normally believe in selling birds but as a young lad who flies on his own and won’t earn decent money until I’m qualified in my profession I have found pigeon racing to be a very expensive sport to be a part of.. I am selling birds not to make a profit but simply to help pay some of my corn and diesel bill so I can have the odd night out in a while and still send to every race because I love the sport and competing too much. I haven’t won as much as many fliers on here but I have won quite a bit for a novice against very strong competion. 3 fliers in our fed have won the WDA multiple times! If I can win with these birds so can you!

I have just killed a large part of my stock team because they haven’t come up to scratch and have replaced these birds with proven stock birds. These birds where brought privately from a top fancier called Ian Metcalf. Ian has flown in both the WDA and Durham Combine and been a hard man to beat both at club and fed level against top fliers such as Curry and Young.

Ian has packed in the sport due to ill health and I was lucky to have the chance to buy proven stock birds from him these birds have won prizes themselves both in club and fed and bred winners. I hope to establish my loft on this fine stock and surpass my results of this season. Despite Ian’s ill health he won the young bird averages in the club last year 2007 and also won positions in the club this year.

Now the important thing the price!

£30.00 a YB from the stock pigeons

£25.00 a YB from the race team

£120.00 for six YB’s Cheaper than Louella and better!

Carriage will be paid by purchaser at current rates

You can have either your own rings on the birds or mine whatever suits you.

£20.00 quid deposit reserves your order

I also may have available latebreds direct from the raggster later in the year. As she is still active racing I don’t want to take too many young birds from her but when the old bird season is over I may take the opportunity to pair her up for latebreds. Only person that will have a first round YB as a gift from her this year is Jimmy Bambling which shows how highly I rate her YB’s. These will be available at £100.00 a YB which I feel is a fair price for the quality they will be. If anyone is interested please let me know and I will put you down along with other people as reserve in case of anyone dropping out etc. I won't take deposits for these in case she gets lost racing etc.

Just to clarify the £120 for six is for YB's both from the racers and the stock. Like Tescos I give you more bang for your dollar!!!

Well got to beat the credit crunch anyway!

I also breed on Bamfords Breed & Wean and use gemphanax for breeding. No expense spared you can't feed YB's you are hoping to be champs crap you get out what you put in!

how do u know urs are better than louella,s? wot proof have u ?

any photos

Quoted from strapper

how do u know urs are better than louella,s? wot proof have u ?

I race he doesn't and everybody knows the best pigeon men are from the North East of England we are born to it like Spartans are born to war.

Only joking I'm sure Louellas are just as good as mine but personally I'd rather buy from a racing loft where the birds that aren't up to the job are discarded.

Quoted from clockman

any photos

Can put some up of the stock birds and race birds if you want to see them George. Will have to take them over the weekend. To be honest was going to wait until they are through the moult as there are feathers everywhere.

Nice to have a go at selling youngsters to help you out in racing,but you can loose good well bred youngsters as much has you loose bad ones,good luck bud hope you fly well next year.

Les

Heres a quick photo of some hens in the stock loft. Van Loon clostest to the camera has bred me winners. I'll get some proper photos asap

Anybody Interested in Pauls Advert will get a good Square deal, the ybs will be sent out in the best of health and quality
He has some very good birds which he has obtained from some of the best flyers in the North East
and although he has not been racing long he has achieved some very good preformances inc
Fastest on the Day in the W.D.A. 5000+ Birds & 1st Federations flying against some of the very best flyers in the AMAL  
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Quoted from Paulo

Just to clarify the £120 for six is for YB's both from the racers and the stock. Like Tescos I give you more bang for your dollar!!!

Well got to beat the credit crunch anyway!

I also breed on Bamfords Breed & Wean and use gemphanax for breeding. No expense spared you can't feed YB's you are hoping to be champs crap you get out what you put in!

so if you dont feed bamfords breed and wean and use gem products your not going to breed champs
well i feed beans so ive blown it then
good luck with your advert mate

Quoted from slatey

so if you dont feed bamfords breed and wean and use gem products your not going to breed champs
well i feed beans so ive blown it then
good luck with your advert mate

Nothing the matter with feeding beans mate Nothing at all , A good friend of mine Jimmy Atkinson From Fishburn breeds on nothing else but beans and has bred & won the U.N.C  with upto 20,000  birds

Quoted from slatey

so if you dont feed bamfords breed and wean and use gem products your not going to breed champs
well i feed beans so ive blown it then
good luck with your advert mate

Whatever works for you mate. As long as you feed plenty of it that what works. What is it with sales threads everyone seems to come on trying to pick a fight?

If you don't want to buy don't but why all the nitpicking!

have your threads locked then Paulo!

Quoted from pjc

have your threads locked then Paulo!

I'm happy for people to have their say PJC but at times it makes you laugh. I could understand people having digs if I was charging tons of money but I'm not and am being totally straight with people about my results.

Pigeonmen are perverse through they'd rather buy off a big team man who is a mob flyer and pay £100+ a YB as they think the birds will be better.

Strange!!!!

Also I put the comments about what I feed on so people know I am feeding a quality mix as personallly I don't spare any expense on rearing YB's and then you get arsey comments about whats strong with beans.

Nothing theres no right or wrong way in pigeon racing results are all that counts!

What makes me laugh you say adverts every week in the pigeon paper from people who don't fly their birds and have just brought some birds off a top flyer and are trying to live off his fame. They also charge £75 + a YB.

At least I can put my hand on my heart and say I'm selling the birds I fly with and have won with.

I also come form a pigeon racing familly that were top flyers in their names. I could list all my dads results from the 80's and 90's.

CIU cup winner etc very sought after prize in the north east for channel races

YB and Old Bird Averages local 6 bird club he flew in

I don't believe in living off past glories through and I don't fly with my dad and won't live off his name.

I'll ask Gemma to lock the thread

People can make their own minds up

good luck with them, they look the part and at least you have the performances to back them up!

Phil

this thread is locked as requested by paulo, if you are interested in the birds for sale please pm him