pigeonscout
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Hard grit is use to grind the corn and the soft great i.e. red grit dissolves and releases minerals and trace elements.
Let them have what they want they will slow down the intake in a couple of days. They are only building up on what they had been lacking.
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Kale is a very good green to give to the birds.
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surely most of the vitamins are destroyed via the cooking process , although i used to give my birds vegetable water , didnt do them anyharm
Dr Ann Wigmore, one of the most well-known proponents of raw diets, even suggests that over 80% of the nutrition in food is destroyed via cooking!
PS I took the above statment from a vitamin web stie
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I was once told that the best greens you can feed your birds is in the form of rabbit food and the birds have no problem eating these small pellets that contain all that is in fresh greens. If you like elderberries you can mix then in blender then make ice cubes with the juice and this will keep them from going off. When you want to give it to your birds just pop an ice cube into the drinker. You can also soak garlic in water for 24 to 48 hours and then make that juice into ice cubes.
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This is incorrect - an executor can be named as a beneficiary - its the witnesses on a will that cannot benefit
You are right and I stand corrected and a bit wiser.
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Well was the oddsnow falls then Oleyellow... But the last proper winter was 1962, 63 was great compared to today.
Was telling the other half how we had slides of 30 yards or mor then... until then actually. When the soles of shoes had 2 inches round lol. Use to put Cornflack box cardboard in the shoes. Was, time we got to school just bare skin and icicles. Mum had to darn the socks every night lol. Marvellous how we slid on them slids.
Went school swimming one year in March. Out door pool of course. Was cobbled ice along all the road sides. Puddles frozeen.
Next year school was too late to get that date... so went 3 week in February!
Gosh we walked the railway lines for a mile an half, then the snow drifts across a mile and 1/2 through drifts to clear the lines to play another village at football.
Now the lads want a taxi to go 300 yards lol.
Remember fight to get close to a firs... warm front and freezing back from draughts drawn out everywhere to go up the chimney.
Only had a sheet in winter, till dad cam home to put his overcoat on be... Wake up froze when he went work at 6 O'clock lol.
Mum going balistic when we fed the birds stale bread... would be ok for milk slops in the morning ... Summer it was sour clot milk lol
Wouldn't change a thing ;D ;D ;D
The snow was that deep here in 1963 or 1964 that on the way to the shop I tripped over something. I looked round to see what I had tripped on and it was the cross on top of the chapel spire. ;D ;D ;D
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I have to agree with oldyellow on this one, I can buy a good multi vitamin / minerals for £7 and that does me all year. How much would it cost to buy all these vitamin / minerals in the form of fresh fruit and vegetables? And after buying all the fresh fruit and vegetables my birds would still need vitamin B 12.
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A 4/10 is a small canon ??) ??)
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I had a small aviary 3ft x 3ft made from piano wire so I could see my birds better when they were in it. I use to hate when my birds got killed and then seeing the rats come out to eat them. I could not stop the hawk but I was able to kill the rats with rat poison or placing the dead bird beside a rat trap like this one covered over with grass. http://www.solwayfeeders.com/productsdetail1.asp?STOCK_CODE=1905.
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The organ which flushes salt from the body is the kidneys, and it needs water to do this. Stands to reason that if the water also contains salt, then it must cause problems.
It is old news now, but our governments and health agencies have been trying for years to get us [and food manufacturers] to reduce salt intake on our food. It's reckoned we shouldn't need to add salt to our diet, our needs are already met from normal foodstuffs.
Like all the trace stuff, we need salt in very very small amounts, for a human its 6 grammes per day, so for birds at a tiny proportion of our weight 6 grammes must equal around 6 months supply needs. The link I've posted is for humans, and dates back to 1994, it shows the affect salt has on blood pressure, and one that I didn't know about - excessive salt means the body loses calcium.
http://www.internethealthlibrary.com/DietandLifestyle/salt-health-danger-research.htm
I hear what you say about people having enough salt in their diet without adding more but can the same be said of a pigeons diet. Pick stones and minerals contain salt and the pigeons that are given these seem to be in a far better condition than the birds that do not have them. I have sent you a PM with a link to a site I think if you have not already read it you will find it very interesting. The way I give salt to my birds may not be the best way but until I find a better way of making sure each bird has it I will give it in the water once a week and they can flush the excess out out the next with the fresh water. I sent you a pm with link to a site you may find it good reading.
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It would stand to reason that the eye sign expert who has the gift of picking breeders just by looking at the eye should be able to breed a loft full of winning birds. There are DVD's books and videos on the subject. I watched one of these videos and the man never once talked about the winning birds he has bred. So can anyone tell me if any of these eye sign experts are top winning loft.
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Agree with what you say about rehydration formula given to small children with diarrhea, which has saved countless lives especially in the third world. Hard to believe anyone could die of diarrhea.
But the issue I have with giving something like this to birds is that the birds aren't ill with a life-threatening condition. So don't see any point in giving it or salt on its own either, as this must alter salt / water balance, and as its in the drinking water, don't see how the bird can balance that out.
You make a good point but would the body not turn the sugar into energy and flush any salt the body did not need back out. I am not 100% sure on this and I am always willing to learn it is just something I pick up from joop koch when he was here at my loft. If you could show me data that says a small amount of salt once a week is not good for them then I will take your advice and stop using it.
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If someone knew what to look for in a pigeon eye that told him it was a breeder of winners then would he not have a loft full of winners?
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lol I'm far from a youngbird expert but here goes. Your going to have to let them out before your of to work so its just finding a way to suit. You'll want them back in the loft at least an hour before you leave as they'll have to eat and get a good drink before you darken them of. Vic I believe put a post on here somewhere saying that he is going to let he's darkness youngsters wake up to natural light (open the shed back up of a night to let the morning light in) I think you should look at doing this. If i were to do this I'd have them out around 11 o'clock.
I think a big mistake fanciers make in trying to get darkness youngbirds to fly is giving them too much in the way of fatty seeds, add barley to their feed instead.
This is good answer and I would do as you are saying if I was in his position.
One tip and a very big tip is when the young birds are not flying freely at the start of the year feed them 75% barley 25% flax seeds for 14 days they will start flying for hours about the 8 to 11 day.
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i sent 6 young birds to Sun City from my cock Diamond Kees and all made it to the final race and gave some excellent results along the way , final result 5th uk 66th open.ive also got hes sister and 1/2 brother, plenty of sons and daughters and i wont be racing this year due to house move
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You and the rest of the uk fanciers put the UK back on the racing pigeon world map. To send 6 to that race and have all 6 make it to the final race takes some doing. You have without any shadow of a doubt top birds well done.
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No one knows kees Bousa birds better than Kees Bousa and Kees Bousa is buying Kees Bousa pigeons back from John Gerard. That tells me that Kees Bousa himself believes that John Gerard has the best of his family of bird.
Read what Kees Bousa says about John Gerards collection of Bousa pigeons
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its a thing i was told by a gid auld doo man years ago when talking about peanuts i said oh i will give them a packet or two of these salted peanuts he said no salt is bad for the kidneys in pigeons use monkey nuts so that is where it came from not casting any doubts on your judgment in any way
I give my birds 1 tea spoon of salt + 4 sugar in 2lt of water once a week when racing in hot weather and it has never done them any harm. Doctors use to give this to new born babies in their bottle if they had vomiting and diarrhea to stop them dehydrating
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Took this from another site.
If you can get the water under cover and off the ground it may help, tennis balls and apples don't work. If it's a small amount of water then dropping one or two glass irn bru bottles filled with boiling water in can act as a hot water bottle staving off the water freezing..if its a plastic drinker on the side of a cage, wrap a sock over it and try tucking a rechargable gel hand warmer inside the sock next to the bottle (or under the bowl) They are cheap to buy...about £5 for two... and they heat for about eight hours, once chilled simply boil in a saucepan for ten minutes to use them again...they work for years!!
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bit of salt in drinker if freezing for birds and if its cold we at our house all sit around a candle and when its realy cold we light it
Bit like our house then ;D ;D ;D
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not believing in magic potions and running for medicine bottles .
That is good advice and I agree with you 100%
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Yes 'cocci' the plural of coccus i rest my case coccidiosis is what they cause they poison the blood causing the infection and can cause fatallitys by poisoning the blood
So you are now saying that when you first said cocci you meant coccus and not Coccidiosis that we all refer to as cocci in the pigeon sport. Your having a laugh.
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they wont put whats in it on the pack in case someone makes it up cheaper
oh happy days
Maybe they are the ones making it cheaper by only puting 5% ronidazol in the mix and not 10%.
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thanks for that
how do you now what your giveing them if you cant find out whats in it or am i thick :-/No your not thick
help needed.....plzzzzz
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I would try the vinegar as it will be safe for the birds
http://www.weekendgardener.net/how-to/snails-slugs.htm