shaun h_

yeah thats what i use aswell very good.

once again thanks for all reply. ill keep posting up on progress.

thanks for reply the birds are not sitting the just all in together i haven't split cocks and hens yet but hoping to do so in the next couple of days im still only getting 20 mins or so out of them round the doors they have been on 3 training tosses about 6 miles and they,re improving 1st time it took 12mins 2nd under 10 mins and 3rd 7mins so getting better i think not sure how long it should be taking them really but they are getting home quicker so they must be improving. i will also change the feed amount to 1/4 oz on morning and 1oz on evening and will stick to it and see what happens thanks again..also to all other replys . is it ok to keep them on gerry + full old bird season or should i be looking to a different corn i was told by a corn merchant that it is something to only feed twice aweek is this right he also advice to feed nothing but barley for full week to get them to fly but i dont think my birds are over weight as on some you can feel the keel sorry for so many questions but need all the advice i can get thanks.

thanks i posted this on another forum but didnt get many replies this forum is more helpfull. ill take note on all any more advice will be appreciated thanks again

hi im new to pigeon racing this will be mine and my sons first season racing . I was after some advice on how much feed to give my birds after morning exercise and after evening exercise . also what corn seed ect ive just started feeding them gerry plus i know i currently have problems cos birds will only exercise for about 20 mins on morning and about 10 to 20 on evening i give them half ounce each after morning and half to 1 ounce on evening these are yearlings and not had them long just managed to settle them theyve been flying out for about a week now but not for long managed to get 45 mins off them yesterday but only by forcing them to fly i fly with my son from our back garden in sunderland and its quite a built up area birds will trap really easy just from me saying come on they all down in seconds am i not feeding them anough for them to be like this they will keep eating even if there crops are full i trap through a open door any advice would be really helpfull. shaun h

our city library has got o,s maps of our city it cost about 80p for copy, in the library theres a area called local studies they should be able to help you if theres one in your area un fourtunatly when i went the had miss placed the one the covers my house bloody tippical > hope this helps

empty air rifle done the trick for me now the cat sits and watchs from afar dont want to harm it but the sound sure scared it off cant take chance of it getting any birds. or you could place black pepper on loft or garden boundries. also heard lillies keep cats out your garden not sure how maybes smell of them or something. 8)