Ian McKay

Smut :emoticon-0179-headbang: :emoticon-0179-headbang:

If you catch me in a pub I will buy the beer and pies :drinking-coffee-200:

Not me :emoticon-0127-lipssealed:

Don't doo meetings in pubs you should know that hic hic I speak enough s**t without you trying to fill me full of drink :drinking-coffee-200:

Now Now Jimmy that's not true but if you wish to divulge it will be looked at Ian Behave yir sell :emoticon-0136-giggle:

No problem Chris was a bit surprised to see it as I know you well enough :emoticon-0136-giggle:

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Yup post was ok but first 3 words were not acceptable especially being aimed at an elder member of our society I unnaproved it Chris (Ian) Light hearted humor and banter which consists of this type of language ALWAYS ends in problems and admin and mods are left to sort it out and it does not matter which way, someone is not pleased Please show some respect for your elders I am sure you were taught that at school

Sale on behalf of the Scottish Homing Union for British Pigeon Fanciers Medical Research Fund This Trust enables you the pigeon fancier to have your blood tested for symptoms of Pigeon Fanciers Lung so you can help yourself and others with a donation or purchase Sale to run from 1st Dec to 11th Dec Finishing at 21.00 Finishing at 21.00 with the five minute rule being implemented In short each bid will be extended 5 min after the last bid before 21.00hrs and each bid thereafter Please be aware we now can tell exactly which second your bid is being placed. The time above your bid is site time and will be used Buyer to arrange collection of successful bids Bids in £5 increments to 100 then £10 increments please Sale’s mans decision is final Lot 1 Norman Orr Larkhall Lanarkshire Federation Scottish National Flying Club 1 X 2018 Youngster Norman has won: SNFC Gold awards Ancensis SNFC 1st West Section 16hrs on the wing in 2014 West Section Averages 3 times in last 12yrs Every position from 1 to 30 in the West Section of the SNFC channel racing Lanarkshire Social Circle Gold Cup 4 Times Lanarkshire Social Circle Inland Averages Larkhall & District club inland OB averages Current bid £70 dunc50 Paid thanks Lot 2 Kevin Murphy Arbroath No info Current bid £60 nipperPaid thanks Lot 3 D Allison Hamilton 2 x 2018 Young Birds I will be donating a pair of 2018 young birds one will be bred off a son of Gareth Rankins Marcia 5 times a SNFC Winner 4 times at the channel he will be paired to a daughter of Jock Alstons "Renstrie Reward" an SHU Dewar Trophy Winner 5 times an SNFC Winner 4 times at the channel,the 2nd young bird will be off Blue cock a son of Westbound Rainbow 1st Section 9th OPEN Tours this cock is the Sire of several winners for me he will be paired to a daughter of my own cock "Jack" who was 1st Section 5th OPEN SNFC 2015 only bird on the day into the West Section 2015. The loft has Won the following top positions in the last few years: 2nd Section E 15th OPEN Ypres SNFC 1st Lanarkshire Fed 2011 1st Section E 1st West Region 5th OPEN Ancenis 2015 SNFC 1st Secion E 12th OPEN Buckingham 2016 SNFC 1st Section E 24th OPEN Ancenis 2016 SNFC cheers Davie Allison Current bid £250 Chanter Paid thanks Lot 4 Morris Bros Johnstone Renfrewshire 1 x 2017 LB Hi Ian,Here is the details for our latebred for the SHU sale, we have two the same way bred, the purchaser can choose one of the two, I have listed our top performances in the SNFC below, Thanks Morris Bros Top SNFC Positons, 14 X 1st Sec F, SNFC 1st, 2 x 2nd 3rd, 6th 8th West Region SNFC 11th, 13th, 17th, 19th, 33rd Open SNFC Dark Chequer Latebred Light Chequer Latebred Current bid £150 meeksPaid thanks Lot 5 Robert Reid Ayrshire 1 x 2017 LB Bird offered is in the foreground SU17.8856 Blue Cock This is a later bred youngster which has still 3 flights to moult on one wing and 4 on the other. His body moult corresponds to this wing condition. Sire of 8856 is Dark Chequer Cock SU13 5904. He has won many positions with his best 2 being 1st Region 12th Open Buckingham 2014 5th Section Billericay 2015. I only raced him to Buckingham 2016 as I was unhappy with the form in the loft. 2017 he flew Ypres just off the result. His parents have 4 National diplomas between them his Dam also topped Ayrshire Federation from Woolaston approximately 240 miles. The breeding of 5904 is mainly Buchannan bloodlines which I introduced in 2007 The Dam of 8856 is Blue Hen SU11A5425 Her best positions being 4th section Maidstone 2014 9th section Ypres 2014 5425 is also dam of 1st Section Clermont 2014 and has been stock only since this performance. The breeding of 5425 is mainly the lines of Tom and Scott McEwan which I introduced in 1998. Current bid £120 ALFPaid thanks Lot 6 Andy Millar Edinburgh 1 x 2018 Young bird My bird will be a 2018 youngster, from my Janseen/SVR family ready end of March. Current bid £50 nipper Paid thanks Lot 7 Mr & Mrs Mitchell Edinburgh No info Current bid £60 b.massey Paid thanks Lot 8 Who Dares Wins One Loft Race Donation (Gary Tomlinson) 2 Young birds Hi Ian Will offer a special pair of 2018 Squeakers bred off our very own Golden Couple, this pair of pigeons are responsible for breeding NFC Section Winners and also a One Loft Race Winner they are also G/Parents to a One Loft Race ACE Pigeon Winner, these birds were purchased direct from Jos Van Olmen who unfortunately passed away in 2016, Jos was only a small back garden flyer who raced against the very best and won in the mighty Antwerp Union, his birds excel at races of 400 + miles and on hard days perfect for the racing in Scotland. We do-not sell youngsters from this pair under £500 each. The birds will not be available until April/May due to fulfilling our orders. Thanks Gary Current bid £250 coey18 Paid thanks

Enjoy your trip :emoticon-0136-giggle:

Fine loony :emoticon-0136-giggle:

Alex you could never spruce him up enough to show him and you would need a big pen :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle:

Happy Birthday have a nice one :drinking-coffee-200:

The Joe Murphy Column Received an email and phone call from a fancier who wrote; ‘Hi Joe, great to chat with you today regrading the birds of prey problem and what I have done over the last two seasons to combat the issue. I have attached a couple of photos that I hope you can see of my birds sprayed with the red sheep marker stuff that I mentioned. I sprayed them on Monday just this week, they have mostly finished their moult and so there was no colour on them until I resprayed them. As I mentioned to you last year, I was dubious at first of using this spray as there are lots of warnings on the can regarding health and irritation etc., so I tried it on just two pigeons initially - checked the next day and they were still alive, so I sprayed the lot! Since then I have sprayed my young bird team (I don't race them, just train them up first year) and my old bird hens and cocks and as I said, I have seen no signs of hawk attacks (we get sparrow hawk and peregrine and Goshawk attacks locally) since doing this. I was advised to hold the bird with its head away from the spray can, part the main wings and expose the back and spray along this area. Then take each wing and spray two small bursts under each wing, this evidently deters the hawk if it actually attacks as the pigeon swerves to try and avoid the killer attack. Side effects that I have observed, they will preen themselves in the area sprayed and they do end up with pink beaks for a few days, but this eventually fades away. Incidentally I have had my best season ever this year, admittedly in a small club with around 7 members, but there is another local club and most weeks when I won (old birds only - 10 wins) I have beaten all these guys too. I have also done well in the federation being up in the top 30 most weeks even though I fly nigh on 9 miles longer that most other flyers – Not being big headed, I know its not national flying, but just trying to make the point that it doesn't seem to affect the birds in terms of racing performance. I have tried a couple of sprays, best one without doubt is from "Stockshop" it’s called "Wolseley" red marking spray - their telephone number is :01392 460077 - They are based in Exeter but have stockists throughout GB & Ireland. I hope this helps you Joe and if you do mention this in your column I know you will keep my name out of it. I would try it yourself and see what you think. I don't like the idea of having to keep my birds in throughout the winter because of hawks and this seems to keep them away, so my birds should keep their fitness levels up in my view. I used to do a lot of running when I was younger, in the winter we kept training to maintain and develop stamina; I use the same principals with my birds... Anyway, that's all for now Joe, keep up the good work writing as I always find your articles very interesting’. Birds enjoying their freedom Birds in Flight Birds with spray on them Top Fancier I noticed on the SNFC web site that Billy Van Nuil of Gretna won the main average awards at the local presentation. Winning the News of the World Trophy; Ellsworth Challenge Trophy; The Clive Newcombe Memorial Trophy; R Telfer Award; South Region Average Award and Section A average award. Billy’s performances are as follows; from Buckingham flying 223 miles he won 1st section A 25th open from an entry of 4170 birds entered by 495 members. From Bedhampton flying 299 miles he won 319th open but no section prize, against 6065 birds sent by 634 members. From the Gold Cup race from Alencon a distance of 472 miles to his loft Billy won 2nd section A 5th open from an entry of 1472 birds sent by 403 members. Then from the Ypres race with an entry of 2320 birds entered by 409 members he timed in 2 birds flying 379 miles to win 5th & 6th section A however they did not win open positions. The next race was from Ancenis the longest national race of the season and Billy came back with a bang winning 1st section A 2nd open flying 533 miles against an entry of 184 birds sent by 76 members. From the last old bird race from Falaise the 199 members sent 802 birds and Billy won 64th open flying 444 miles but did not win a section prize. On checking the young bird national I did not see his name on the result however he would just have to time in from the race as no other fanciers could compete with his performances this year. As sections B, C, D, E, F & G average trophies were NOT WON. The North, East & West Regions averaged trophies were also NOT WON. Which makes Billy Van Nuil performances all the more outstanding; so well done Billy. In all the years I have been covering the SNFC results; I have never ever experienced a year like 2017 when only ONE region average trophy was won and NONE of the others have been gained. The Dr William Anderson Memorial Trophy for the best average in Alencon; Ancenis & Falaise races was won by E Hodgson & sons of Annan. The T Buck trophy for the best average from Alencon & Falaise was won by J Gilmour of Ecclefechan. Good SNFC Birds Continuing reporting on these excellent pigeon this week I highlight a chequer hen Nicole rung SU12CA 2649 raced by P Ward of Linlithgow who received her Meritorious Inland Bronze Award at the club presentation a few weeks ago. As a 2 year old she was entered into the Buckingham race a distance of 294 miles and won 11th section D 64th open. That same year she went to Maidstone a distance of 370 miles and won 58th section D 379th open. In the 2015 season she won twice from inland races being 46th section D 399th open from Portsmouth flying 369 miles and then into the Eastbourne race a distance of 394 miles and she won 27th section D. Last year 2016 she won 30th section D from Buckingham some more information about this bird, she was 1st Central section 2nd open from Ypres in 2014 with the Central Scotland 3 bird club flying 449 miles. In 2015 she was 1st Central section 1st open from Burbure flying 453 miles also with the Central Scotland 3 bird club. Nicole also has club cards to her name once again many congratulations. My next pigeon is an exception bird as it has won 11 times in the SNFC and is also a SNFC Meritorious Inland Bronze Award for Davie Glen of Forfar. His blue bar cock SU12AF 746 named ‘Lowson Lad’. He wins his award this year for gaining 5 wins from inland national races as an old bird. As a yearling in 2013 he won 4th section C 25th open from Maidstone a distance of 401 miles that same year he competed from Ypres and won 114th open flying 465 miles although he did not win a section prize. In 2014 he again contested from the same 2 race points and won 5th section C 26th open from Maidstone and then gained 3rd section C 15th open from Ypres. The following year 2015 he won 17th section C 83rd open from Portsmouth a distance of 407 miles and was then entered into the Eastbourne race which is 20 miles further and he obtained 14th section C 47th open. In 2016 he won 3 national diplomas being 27th section C 137th open Buckingham flying 330 miles and won his Inland Bronze Award Dave then entered him into the Littlehampton race and he again succeeded by gaining 22nd section C 56th open flying 415 miles he was then set up for the Ypres event and triumphed by winning 6th section C 15th open. In 2017 he was entered into the Bedhampton race and won 34th section C 101st open thus gaining his 7th inland national diploma. He was then set up for 4th attempt from Ypres and he won 2nd section C 2nd open Ypres thus gaining ‘Lowson Lad’ a SNFC Silver Award to go along with his Inland Bronze Award To achieve the Double SNFC Award is very exceptional and you must agree a truly stupendous pigeon raced by a very talented fancier whom we congratulate on their success. Well done Dave. Another 2 outstanding pigeons from over the River Tay that caught my eye are as follows; firstly a blue bar cock SU14DF 1256 raced by Joe Hunt of Dundee who has won 5 times in the SNFC. His first win was in 2015 when he won 8th section C 29th open from Eastbourne flying 422 miles the following year he won twice being 105th section C 428th open from Littlehampton a distance of 409 birds. He was then set up for his first channel race from Ypres and he won 21st section C 54th open flying 463 miles. This year he was entered into the Bedhampton race and won 49th section C 167th open flying 401 miles he was then sent to Ypres and won 21st section C 57th open thus winning his 5th award and now requires one more section wins from the channel to gain his Silver Award and we wish Joe every success for the future with his good blue cock. My 2nd pigeon raced into the Angus Federation to a household name within the pigeon sport none other than David J Liddle of Forfar. His chequer cock SU11AF 520 has won 6 times in the Scottish National starting in 2014 when he won 4 times in the one season being 57th section C 228th open from Buckingham flying 330 miles he then went to the Maidstone race a distance of 401 miles and won 11th section C 49th open then from the last old bird race of the season from Clermont a distance of 549 miles he won 32nd section C 119th open. Then the following year he went to Portsmouth a distance of 408 miles and won 24th section C 98th open then in 2016 as a 5 year old he was entered into the SNFC Gold Cup from Reims a distance of 588 miles and won 6th section C 21st open this year 2017 he again won from Buckingham being 44th section C 144th open and now requires one more inland win to achieve a SNFC Meritorious Bronze Award and hopefully one more win from over the channel to win a SNFC Silver Award which would take him into the unique band of pigeons flying into Scotland. Back to the East of Scotland now for my next pigeon that I also noticed while studding the 2017 SNFC results: This excellent pigeon has achieved some wonderful positions and should have clinched his SNFC Silver Award but this must not have claimed for. However I feel he deserves a mention in this feature within my column. He is a mealy cock raced and has won 4 times from across the English Channel and twice from inland nationals. His number is SU12P 4830 and he is down on the national results as a chequer, a chequer pied, a slatey and a mealy cock (which causes some concern to me as someone is not doing their job properly at the marking station) regardless he was raced by lady fancier Karen Newcombe of Macmerry in East Lothian; who now flies in partnership with Ian Black. As a yearling the cock won 6th section B 11th open Ypres flying 426 miles the following year he was again sent back to Ypres and won 44th section 70th open. Last year he was 15th section B 20th open from Billericay a distance of 330 miles. Then in 2016 he won twice being 341st open from Buckingham a distance of 283 miles and then won 34th section B 64th open again from Ypres. Then in 2017 he has come good again being to the fore from the hard Gold Cup race from Alencon winning 7th section B 39th open from a distance of 534 miles. Well done to Karen and Ian let us hope the mealy cock can achieve his Gold Award in 2018. Joe’s Joke I just discovered my age group! I am a Seenager. (Senior teenager) I have everything that I wanted as a teenager, only 50-60 years later. I don't have to go to school or work I get an allowance every month I have my own pad. I don't have a curfew. I have a driver's license and my own car. I have ID that gets me into bars and the wine store. The people I hang around with are not scared of getting pregnant, they aren’t scared of anything, they have been blessed to live this long. Why be scared? And I don't have acne. Life is Good! Also, you will feel much more intelligent after reading this, if you are a Seenager. Brains of older people are slow because they know so much. People don’t decline mentally with age; it just takes them longer to recall facts because they have more information in their brains. Scientists believe this also makes you hard of hearing as it puts pressure on your inner ear. Also, older people often go to another room to get something and when they get there, they stand there wondering what they came for. It is NOT a memory problem; it is nature's way of making older people do more exercise. SO THERE!! I have more friends I should send this to, but right now I can't remember their names. So, please forward this to your friends; they may be my friends too! Did I send you this already?? Please continue to keep the news flowing; to Joe Murphy Mystical Rose Cottage 2 Flutorum Avenue Thornton by Kirkcaldy KY1 4BD or phone 01592 770331 or Email to joejmurphy1@gmail.com REMEMBER THE J IN THE MIDDLE or log onto www.elimarpigeons.com www.fancierchat.co.uk and www.pigeon-chat.co.uk also www.pigeonbasics.com Pigeon Racing the Basics who wish my weekly contribution portfolio on pigeon topics from Scotland. © Compiled by Joe Murphy

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Happy Birthday lads (what's left of it) have a nice one :drinking-coffee-200:

Mornin all :drinking-coffee-200: :drinking-coffee-200:

Some folk got a the luck :emoticon-0136-giggle:

Mornin all :drinking-coffee-200: :drinking-coffee-200:

Do you handle your chicks between birth and ringing

How often do you clean out your nest boxes in your stock / breeding birds?

My box in my spreadsheet is not big enough to add that :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle:

The Joe Murphy Column I’ve struggled these past 2 weeks trying to keep the column going as I had to go into Princess Margaret’s hospital in Dunfermline to have an operation on my right hand. I have been having problems with ‘trigger finger’ which is a finger that locks and through time releases but can be very painful at times. I’ve previously had injections into my finger to see if this would solve the problem but to no avail. The surgeon made an incision into the palm of my hand then slit the tendon on the finger. To be honest it was over in a jiff but I had to keep the wound dry for a week and keep dressings on it. Margaret was a gem and cleaned out the birds and did the loft chores she even typed up last week’s article for me. No wonder I’ve embraced her for the past 50 years. We had a great time at our anniversary party with all the family and friends there and I would also like to thank all the people who sent cards; emails or phone messages with their good wishing. Joe Margaret & Joe Murphy Bereavement Sale Received an email from Gavin Ferguson who wrote ‘Hi Joe, I am organising a bereavement sale of birds, baskets etc. for Joe Bowman's wife. As you know Joe passed away during the season and I would be most obliged if you could include notification of the sale in your notes. This will take place in the Hill of Beath Club, Main St Hill of Beath KY4 8DP. It will be held on Sunday 5th November with viewing from 12-30 till 13-30 with the auction starting at 13-30 prompt and No birds will be sold prior to the sale. Included in the sale will be the sire and dam of Joe’s 2012 Fontenay SNRPC national winner. The birds are predominantly Jan Aarden, mostly sourced from House of Aarden. Having been down to see them, and view the pedigrees and paperwork, there are some outstanding distance birds up for sale. All proceeds will be donated to local cancer charities therefore preferred method of payment is cash. For further details interested parties can contact me Gavin Ferguson on mobile 07773363406 many thanks in anticipation yours Gavin’. Good SNFC Birds The Scottish national presentation was held last weekend and I have decided to highlight some of the outstanding birds that have now achieved awards in the club starting with Brian Chalmers of Kennoway in Fife with his chequer cock SU 14 F 2781 named ‘Top Cat’ after his late father Tom who was a club mate of mine in Kennoway HS. Brian’s chequer cock won 27th section C 143rd open from Buckingham a distance of 303 miles as a youngster. Then as a yearling he was sent to Billericay a distance of 349 miles and he won 15th section C 64th open that same year he was entered into the Claremont race a distance of 256 miles and won 31st section C 74th open. In 2016 he was raced marked for the national race from Buckingham race and won 9th section C 45th open 18 days later he was entered into the Littlehampton race a distance of 388 miles and won 115th section C but no open position. This year he was entered into the first 2 inland nationals with the first from Buckingham were he won 92nd section C 291st open thus winning him SNFC Meritorious Inland Bronze Award he was then sent to the Bedhampton race winning 15th section C 44th open. Therefore he has won 7 SNFC diplomas in the 3 years he has competed with the national, a very good pigeon. Staying in the Kingdom of Fife Federation boundaries, we come to our 2nd pigeon to win a SNFC Meritorious Inland Bronze Award this dark chequer known as ‘The Dark Cock’ SU14F 2023 is raced by Stuart Donaldson of Blairgowrie. As a yearling he flew exceptionally well winning 2nd section C 24th open from Portsmouth a distance of 408 miles then 13 days later he was entered into the Eastbourne race a distance of 430 miles to his loft and won 5th section C 13th open not bad going to win twice in the top 25 open positions in 2 national races. In 2016 he was entered into Buckingham a distance of 331 miles and won 99th section C 371st open. This year 2017 he was entered into the first 2 inland nationals with the first from Buckingham and once again he was up with the winners to gain 3rd section C 24th open 12 days later he was entered into the Bedhampton race a distance of 408 miles and he won 38th section C 116th open thus winning his Bronze Award. We now come to another exceptional fancier who has won 8 nationals since he moved to Ayton on the Berwickshire coast his name is known throughout the land namely Billy Bilsland. His blue bar hen Welltower Zoe named after Billy’s latest granddaughter and is rung NEHU13BOR 1752. As a yearling she won 13th section B 14th open Maidstone a distance of 339 miles. The following year she won 5th section B 5th open (beaten by 4 loft mates as Billy won the first 6 open positions) from the Bedhampton (Portsmouth) national flying 348 miles. Zoe was then entered into the Eastbourne race (instead of Ypres) and won 5th section B 7th open flying 366 miles. In 2016 she was entered into the 2 inland nationals and won 73rd section B 215th open Buckingham a distance of 270 miles. 12 days later she was entered into the Littlehampton race a distance of 354 miles and she won 11th section B 28th open to win her SNFC Meritorious Inland Bronze Award As you will see she has been 4 times in the top 28 open positions in the national showing the quality of pigeon she is. Well done to the above 3 pigeons and their owners they must all be proud of their birds performances. Joe’s Joke One day in the future, Donald Trump has a heart-attack and dies. He immediately goes to Hell, where the devil is waiting for him. "I don't know what to do here," says the devil. "You are on my list, but I have no room for you. You definitely have to stay here, so I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I've got three folks here who weren't quite as bad as you. I'll let one of them go, but you have to take their place. I'll even let YOU decide who leaves." Donald thought that sounded pretty good, so the devil opened the door to the first room. In it was Richard Nixon and a large pool of water. Nixon kept diving in, and surfacing, empty handed. Over, and over, and over he dived in and surfaced with nothing. Such was his fate in hell. "No," Donald said. "I don't think so. I'm not a good swimmer and it would ruin my hair. I don't think I could do that all day long." The devil led him to the door of the next room. In it was Ronald Reagan with a sledge-hammer and a room full of rocks. All he did was swing that hammer, time after time after time. "No, this is no good; I've got his problem with my shoulder. I would be in constant agony if all I could do was break rocks all day," commented Donald. The devil opened a third door. Through it, Donald saw Bill Clinton, lying on the bed, his arms tied over his head, and his legs restrained in a spread-eagle pose. Bent over him was Monica Lewinsky, doing what she does best. Donald looked at this in shocked disbelief, and finally said, "Yeah man, I can handle this." The devil smiled and said........... "OK, Monica, you're free to go." Please continue to keep the news flowing; to Joe Murphy Mystical Rose Cottage 2 Flutorum Avenue Thornton by Kirkcaldy KY1 4BD or phone 01592 770331 or Email to joejmurphy1@gmail.com REMEMBER THE J IN THE MIDDLE or log onto www.elimarpigeons.com www.fancierchat.co.uk and www.pigeon-chat.co.uk also www.pigeonbasics.com Pigeon Racing the Basics who wish my weekly contribution portfolio on pigeon topics from Scotland. © Compiled by Joe Murphy

Happy Birthday Guy's enjoy :drinking-coffee-200:

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