yes youre right ben they probably could not hold a candle to some of the top english flyers, but that aint gonna stop people buying , people need to look a bit deeper into results as in belgium they are flying upto 5 races on a weekend its the way they word the results what are totally misleading there is only one 1st prize winner in a race but then you get all the other blarney that comes with it ps roland george busschaert left a legacy of winners the like may never be seen again and deserves credit as a master of his sport....mick