yes these are a flying breed,i read an article by an american roller man who sufferd high losses 2 b.o.p..he was advised by another flyer to try the oriental rollers because of there unorthodox rolling teqniquie..he bred a kit and flew them and observed the b.o.p trying to catch them his words after 20 mins of not being able to catch any of the orientals gave up n flew off, he now flys a kit 30 mins before his birmingham rollers and losses are right down....