adam owen

100 thats alot to loose fella i wouldnt be pleased

very true rambo each to is own i spose i can understand your cercumstances u can do it to suit your self strapper eg 9to5 8to4 or 7to3 but you can do at your own way depending on work ect 13 hours darkness is the limit i do it 13 hours darkness for 6weeks

you could pair later if you wanted but it depends on how many you want off stock birds tho my self personally will pair in feb have a round on darkness to fly in the races but my birds for the year after will be bred later left on nat and just trained to about 50 to 60 miles and just left to moult and mature to many good birds lost as ybs i think well look at brom all his best dont get raced as ybs makes you wonder

just been thinking about something people say you got be on darkness for 8 10 weeks well if you do what you done pair boxing day and they go on nat darkness they are on it for 6 weeks as the clocks change end of march so i cant see point in breeding early when you can have them bred later in the year and still do the 6 week darkness this way its less work corn bills ect and you are still having the same out come

they were on natrual darkness then

good going when u say no darkness wen did u breed them as u got them to 200 miles

lmao gud luck

that has happ to me and others really cnt make it out sometimes they win as well makes u wonder

thats good going fair play best yet

thats most of the trouble i think clashing with the tech we got thease days i dnt see why like????

looking at it i think i will breed what i want for old birds in the summer and leave them natral and train them and keep 20 on darkness to race the programe just to compete as the yb losses are so many know it seems a better idea to look after a team of ybs and train them yea ull loose some but ull have a nice team of yearlings stress free as ybs looking the part as they wont have the darkness

sorry missed read it still 317 is good going we dnt fly no where near that in wales

interesting,theres a few differant cercumstances there i like the look of 399 as ybsits a challange and a thrill i guess good going

yes phillip it sure has this is why i love this site good advice on here ive learnt alot from talking to people and if it wernt for the net never would i doubt cheers to all

i agree flapper get the dave alan widhood year book great book easy to follow step by step from start of season to end

crikey good job u add your trained ones how do u find them as old birds how do they do as they were just trained how far u send them as yearlings

how many ybs u breed each year and how many u have left how far did u send them ????

get old of the dave alan book thats how i started mine so clear plain and simple to undastand u can ticker with it to suit ya self but starting off its a crackker

bloody right owen im i put the post up and ive decided on this along with the ventalation system jason as gave me from ron will thats impressive i think it will be a cracking loft fair play

i see

i think we shouldjust have one ring eg ring number and ets all in one much easyer id say

lol i see 13x6 loft but what does the other 6 mean at the end of that :-/

yes deffo its gail force here at mo has been for a while so u couldnt poss have them out acc aint sin a bird out since racing alot of hawk trouble here and plus its to cold for us to be out there ;D ;D

cheers ill look into that it sounds a good thing

sorry if i seem dull ha ha but i dnt no what they are ??