adam owen

depends on how much air flow you have in it really ,but the less you have in it the better,if it was me i would put 40 to 45 in the 16ft loft and 25 to 30 in other loft max it aint how many its whats in the loft less is always better

many thanks to my good mate demolitionman for the fine birds he sent down again this year .thease bushearts notched up five firsts in the yb programe plus other positions many thanks buddy two years ago i had a draft of bushys off berny and again they done the job even 10th nat from caranten .highley reccomend thease birds to any one true gent and good freind

ull find that they will be good ,always found north birds going south are fine but south going north they dnt adapt as well why dnt u fly your ybs south this year then ull av them ready with ya old birds next year bern

start training them at 3months but it depends on how they going all birds are differant i spose

no probs mate barley in underestmated the droppings are like marbles and the down will fall off them which helps with the condition

drops the wait off them and conditions them up and thins the blood which will help the oxegan get to them better which will inhance there effort in flight

get them doing at least 1 hour b4 u even think of training them mate get them on the barley they will soon get going

2nd 3rd fed last week ow so u no ya game

can some one from admin get in touch with me please

you can fool some not all of them

sent you pm jhon

its a cracker fair doos i built it with him well carryed him ha ha ha but it is a cracker

got cat issues my self id like some info on how to sort it and no i cant do away with them as they are my father in laws ha ha just to keep them from the lofts

he was on earlyer mate u just missed him ha ha hes like his birds quick

he pm me today and i was at his house go there every day hes still alive

cant see the sence in that anything that is good for a pigeon should be good enough all the time surley??

that aint hard bern ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

theres a man i no not to far from where i live,always flys natrual and uses beans.he has all the best pigeons and this is fact hes always been like that ,years ago flying on the north ect he won nationals all the way up to lerwick ect cracking flyer even nicer bloke.then as the times changed eg the feed the widow system ect he was no where to be seen ,hes still podding on with his birds and the best u can get as well i no this from where he had them from and people winning with them at the highest level.but still he wont change the feed or the way he flys .i truly belive if he changed his ways he would prob be one of the best but u cant tell thease older heads

very true mate but theres more to it than that he clearly he just dnt feed just barley ,well i dnt belive that anyway ,and the days of the old days are well gone everything eg the birds the type of food available ect is alot differant ,i agree with the fact that people still win on beans ect but theres no consitancy with them flyers eg top fed this week next week hour behind and thats how alot of them flyers are to be the best thease days and to keep up with people u got fly 110% week in week out or ull be left behind .spose really its how u see ya racing just bit of fun or the will to win .

good advice lee

now if tha economic didnt av maize in it that be a perfect yb mix with diet and pellets added

i was always told to stay clear of brown skin peas beans ect because of the toxins in it thats why i use white green blue and very small amount of maples,as long as yopurbirds get plenty of clay blocks and grit the brown skins are fine but if u dnt use the clay blocks it isnt.so im told so thats wat i did works well for me

just looked on gem i cant see anything called gem irish?????????????????

the maple peas av 22.5 crude and 19.5 digestable not sure on the others i cant find it(kids av bin at my books again ha ha)

really looking foward to going to essex to meet two top fancers,thease guys are up there with the best in the uk roll on the 17th march