i take mine and other members birds,20mile everyday ,i started with 12,i still got 12.....i finished 3rd in first race and second last week,so hopefully 1st this week lol,ive been training other members birds,all season.....never again hitin n missin all the time,i expect sum members keep em as pets,seem to wrap them up in cotton wool, lol who needs 50-60 birds lol, lets see how many i got left and end of season