farmers and estate owners have a lot of power, and as said the only way to get something done is to do it legal,doing it the other way is just giving the rspb more backing, get onto Alex Salmon he will do a lot to get voters, its causing lots of problems,shops not selling wild bird food as there isnt any song birds etc to eat it, i put seed on my bird house at beginning of summer and its still there, thats the only way keep all complaints and and disscussions above board, the pigeon unions tried hard but failed, yes but really what influence do we have with the vast majority of the public,not a lot those days, but farmers and estate owners doo