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This pigeon is what Chris Little would call a Long Distance Sprinter, he was 1st National St Vincent 37,239b flying 663 miles, he was recorded on the automatic ETS at 4.40 am but was clocked 50 mins later at 5.30 am. Remember it was a late lib. He won the race by over a 100 metres a minute!!!! in terms of breeding all i can say is we would never sell one they are that important to our future!!!!!!!!! Stuart

Rockinrick, i sold the mother of this pigeon. Stuart

The parents were inbred g-children of Supercrack and silver boy

How many of you take the time to report winners from a stud or another fancier. It frustrates me when i here by chance that our pigeons are winning, it makes running a stud very difficult when you dont get to here which lines are doing the business. On saturday a Top Flyer mentioned to me that a son of our Hero was breeding scores of Club and Fed winners into the Black Country, i asked him why he didnt call me he shrugged his shoulders. Theres many more instances only this week a guy called and ordered a pigeon, when i asked why he said he already had one and would like another, i said why do you want another he said that hen had bred 7x1st Prizewinners in her very first year!!! But again he had no real plans to tell us. That means that 2 of our National pigeons are g-sire/dam to 7 x 1sts that makes alot of differance. Stuart

No problem Albear!!!! Good luck with the Beute Cock, he has got a very strong eye as im sure your aware, and the bloodline to match. One thing i will say about his young, they were always the first sold out an avairy of 200 plus pigeons, if i get any reports back i will let you know. Last year i sold a similiar pigeon to a guy in Cornwall for a very modest price, it was a cheq hen. Last month i had the pleasure of telling him that a youngster from that pigeon was in the running for ACE pigeon of all holland, he was Ace pigeon in the combine, and Sector 1000+ members!!! and was being voted on in the Best of the Best competion!!!!!! Stuart

At an auction on saturday a good friend on mine purchased a direct son of the famous pair Boy and Queen for only £50, what a bargain!!! I was quoted 3000 euros for one of these only this year. Has anyone had any similiar luck??? Stuart

Albear, just to clarify i dont dout the benifits of good eyed pigeons, its the bit about telling what distances they can fly, but im all ears so can someone explain the mechanics of it?

Nothing to do with Venus. The cocks i imported are bred from the line of supercrack and all won combines, they have been sold 1 is in Bristol, 1 in Norfolk and one in south wales. Its always been our aim to find and sell good pigeons and in those 3 we excelled ourselves. These pigeons are sprint/middle and our mainly Janssen based!!! Stuart

What about the eye Albear?

This is new to me and im a little septic however im interested and willing to listen. Could some body tell me if they believe the following pigeon would breed? and what sort of distance would this sprinter fly to?

Yes i fly them and there are something very different, Last year i bought 3 champion cocks in from this family and they were supurb. Be aware there isnt a more expensive pigeon than a Ludo Classens at the mo, your talking 1000 euros and above just for young ones. Ganus also owns some very good Classens. Stuart

Yes i fly them and there are something very different, Last year i bought 3 champion cocks in from this family and they were supurb. Be aware there isnt a more expensive pigeon than a Ludo Classens at the mo, your talking 1000 euros and above just for young ones. Ganus also owns some very good Classens. Stuart

These two would cost the normal fancier 5 times these prices, i have great contacts in Holland and with our buying power i can buy at a cheaper price. These are real bargains, study the performances!!!!!

These two would cost the normal fancier 5 times these prices, i have great contacts in Holland and with our buying power i can buy at a cheaper price. These are real bargains, study the performances!!!!!

I purchased a number of summer young birds that were intended for stock but after having such a good young bird season, i owe my present breeders there box. I will offer these 06 pigeons and possibly 1 or 2 05 pigeons at there original purchase price. NL2006 1620669/68 Blue Hen and Blue Cock Sire Musketiers 3. winner of 2nd NPO Chimay 8042b, 15th Hannut 3448b, 53rd Beek 14,940b, 68th Chimay 17,077b. He is full brother to Musketiers 1, 1st Maasik 6,925b, 2nd Boxtel 12,595b, 3rd St Quentin 5071b, 15th Maaseik 15,728b and Musketiers 2 2nd Beek 14,940b, 2nd Hannut 12,455b, 2nd Maaseik 6,926b. The sire of the Musketiers is Dutch Prince from Harm Vredeveld and bred from Blauwe 56 and Dutch Queen who is a full sister to Loverman, from Boy and Queen. The dam is Super breeder De Diament. Dam of these two is a full sister to Ruiter 975 who was the 6th Best Pigeon of all WHZB Holland in 1999 and is from the best Kadet and Benjamin line of Meulemans. These are real pigeons for a real price!!! Priced at £75 each Stuart Wilcox 07715 166066

I purchased a number of summer young birds that were intended for stock but after having such a good young bird season, i owe my present breeders there box. I will offer these 06 pigeons and possibly 1 or 2 05 pigeons at there original purchase price. NL2006 1651226 Blue Hen Sire Bred by Gaby Van Den Abeele, a direct son of Bliksem 1st Poiters 1448b, 2nd Chateauroux 4662b, 4th Ruffec 1778b, 5th Prigueux 1119b, 8th Poitiers 2975b etc bred direct from Kolonel 1st Chateauroux 7793b, 1st Limoges 2762b from Wittenbuik and Prinsesie. Bliksem was pired to a dtr of Turbo 2nd Nat Brive and 1/s brother to Wittenbuik. Dam Bred By Gaby a dtr of James Bond 1st Nat Bourges 13,166b bred from a sister of Wittenbuik. James Bond was paired to Crack Duiven 21st Nat Bourges, 34,276b, 3rd Bourges 5347b, 9th Tours 1677b etc. Exceptional Breeding Priced at £110 Stuart Wilcox 07715 166066

I will get it for you tomorrow J if you still need it.

Andrew Dispite the fact that i was one of your main critics i think its sad that your leaving the forum as you could have learned so much and believe me there is a lot for you to learn. Im not so much older than you as is ACE, Bristlkev etc and we are all still learning. The forum has turned against you for one reason and one reason only HONESTY!!! Firstly you told so many little stories about why you were selling your birds when the truth was you just wanted shot of them, and to make it worse whilst telling everyone you were shuting down your stock loft you were trying buy new stock from me and many others. The other thing you done which i didnt like was you dressed your pigeons up and tag them with high prices and fancy words hoping to catch a mug or two, and when nobody took the bate you dropped them from £150, £125 etc to £30 or £40 to get them out the door!!! Respect people and price pigeon to what they are worth Andrew and people will respect you for it. I have sold pigeons from £30 - £300 on this forum and a pigeon worth more than £100 would stay in my loft if not sold, if it didnt have a home in my loft its certainly not worth more than £100 to anyone else, (i hope people get my drift). One more thing, now you cant sell your goods your dropping the site!! Well that just goes to show what pigeon basics means to you!!!! I for one hope that you return as a member of the forum sharing your views and news and build some bonds again and if you have something in your loft that needs to go "PULL ITS NECK" Best of Luck Andrew (and i do mean that) Stuart

No problem ACE He seems to be breeding better pigeons than ever now!!!!

Stick my dick in a hot potato!!!! Dont be silly it will get burnt!!!!!

Well Billymac, what more needs to be said!! NOTHING

Actually Andew i believe the problem is YOU!!!! The first thing is you only use this site to sell pigeons, you rarely ever post on any other part of the site. Secoundly you have turned this part of the forum into a circus with your dodgy reasons for selling, "Closing down stock loft", "Returning to Uni" etc etc whilst at the same time trying to purchase pigeons from other members on this site!!!! You have peed off Mike Lycett, Sean, Ace, me and many others who use every facility on this website not just the "for sale" site. We cant all be wrong Andrew!!! As i have said to you before learn about pigeons, learn about people and then come back!!! Mr Kulpa is a fantastic flyer, i dont know him or met him but i can read and thats all thats important when results are concerned. It must tell you something Andrew when you have caused him so much aggro just by trying to endorse/compliment his pigeons. Listen to what ACE told you because that young man was spot on!! I suggest the Webmaster removes all of these threads and we start again, fresh, open minded and looking forward to the future.

Ian it was ment as a joke, i have for lofts 3 x 18ft x 8ft, and 1 20ft x 10ft and the garden is 150ft x 40ft, i was just thinking of the shock as people dont seem to accept pigeons any more. Stuart

Found a house and touch wood should be in by End January, also thinking of ordering a new loft, what do you think put it up in the summer or sneak it up in deepest winter and perhaps they wont notice? :X :X :X :X : :X :X :X

They might use it as a coat hanger, or in my case a metal detecter!!! ;D