not starting a slanging match or trying to blame anyone, all i am saying is the proper procedure is crates returned to clubs on the way home from the last race,,we in fife have let that slip a wee bit . dave..i think you know that i have done as much as most for my fed, and, would help anyone and have done so over the years. ian..i have only met you once..and i dont think you are in anyway able to comment on what or what i have not done to help my fed..one thing i do know is a few years ago when the amal was running i helped the aberdeen fed in a big way, also your controller used to phone me at 5am in the morning for a weather update.also when the highland fed motor broke down in fife it was me who was lying underneath it in the pissing rain. best o luck to all in 2012