I wouldn,t say so, I simply did not have the time in the mornings before work, to get the cocks out and the hens, sometimes a hen would sit out, and then I could not let the cocks outhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif must add, the hens flew exceptionally well, when on roundabouthttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif