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MANY HAPPY RETURNS FOLKS http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/animatedpigeons.gif ljb107 (19), bigbok (44)

Today in Fife Today | Tomorrow | 10 Day | Monthly | Seasonal Current Conditions http://i.uk.imwx.com/global/images/spacer.gifCurrent Timehttp://i.uk.imwx.com/global/images/93x93/30.png13°CFeels Like 13°C Partly Cloudy Last Updated: 06:25 03 Aug (local time), 05:25 GMT Observation Station: Fife NessWind From Northwest at 6 kmph Humidity 92% Pressure 1,008.13 mb Dew Point 12°C Visibility 12.9 km What's Next Weekend Forecast Today's Outlook http://i.uk.imwx.com/global/images/spacer.gifMoon Phases Today's Forecast http://i.uk.imwx.com/global/images/61x61/30.pngHigh 17° Sunrise: 05:17 Chance of Precip. 20% Partly Cloudy Tonight's Forecast http://i.uk.imwx.com/global/images/61x61/29.pngLow 12° Sunset: 21:15 Chance of Precip. 20% Partly Cloudy

as I said before "running scared"http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0136-giggle.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0136-giggle.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0136-giggle.gif

GB12S56768 youngster has dropped in tonight at my loft, half it's tail seems to be missinghttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0138-thinking.gif

Glad to hear this Davy m8http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/animatedpigeons.gif

I give them a normal feed the night before basketing, and the day of basketing, I give them a good feed, and remove at 1pm. with regards to the water on return, simply fresh water.

very nice birds, my choice would be the wee chequered piedhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/animatedpigeons.gif

that sound good news Lindsay m8http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0167-beer.gif http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/lib/images/symbols/w10x15.gif

The problem with holding youngsters back from a race due to possible bad weather, is you are relying on the weather for the following week being better, and if it is not, then you are increasing the mileage the birds may have to be jumped, if like our federation, each race increases in mileage to be covered, with no come back races, this needs to be consideredhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0138-thinking.gifJMO

Due to the poor weather forecast for this coming weekend, do you think we will get a race? our federation have their first young bird race from Kelsohttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0138-thinking.gif

How many youngsters do you intend to send to this weeks race? where from/how far?http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/animatedpigeons.gif

GOOD MORNING FOLKShttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/animatedpigeons.gif

MANY HAPPY RETURNS kevin b (45)http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0123-party.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0123-party.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0123-party.gif

Today in Fife Today | Tomorrow | 10 Day | Monthly | Seasonal Current Conditions http://i.uk.imwx.com/global/images/spacer.gifCurrent Timehttp://i.uk.imwx.com/global/images/93x93/28.png13°CFeels Like 13°C Mostly Cloudy Last Updated: 06:25 02 Aug (local time), 05:25 GMT Observation Station: Fife NessWind From West South West at 19 kmph Humidity 90% Pressure 1,003.05 mb Dew Point 12°C Visibility 11.3 km What's Next Weekend Forecast Today's Outlook http://i.uk.imwx.com/global/images/spacer.gifMoon Phases Today's Forecast http://i.uk.imwx.com/global/images/61x61/30.pngHigh 17° Sunrise: 05:15 Chance of Precip. 20% Partly Cloudy Tonight's Forecast http://i.uk.imwx.com/global/images/61x61/33.pngLow 11° Sunset: 21:17 Chance of Precip. 10% Mostly Clear

WELL DONE GORDON M8http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0137-clapping.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0137-clapping.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0137-clapping.gif

pm Hey Presto on here, he is in St Andrews club

Fife Federation have their 1st young bird race of the 2012 season from Kelso, 46 miles. Good Luck tae all the Fifershttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/animatedpigeons.gif

WELCOME TO PIGEON BASICS ratinho1http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/animatedpigeons.gif

GOOD MORNING FOLKS http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/375771_340749589343280_1896865970_n.jpg

MANY HAPPY RETURNS marvin (39) http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0123-party.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0123-party.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0123-party.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0123-party.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0123-party.gif

Today in Fife Today | Tomorrow | 10 Day | Monthly | Seasonal Current Conditions http://i.uk.imwx.com/global/images/spacer.gifCurrent Timehttp://i.uk.imwx.com/global/images/93x93/11.png14°CFeels Like 14°C Rain Shower Last Updated: 06:45 01 Aug (local time), 05:45 GMT Observation Station: Fife NessWind From Southeast at 18 kmph Humidity 97% Pressure 1,005.08 mb Dew Point 13°C Visibility 11.3 km What's Next Weekend Forecast Today's Outlook http://i.uk.imwx.com/global/images/spacer.gifMoon Phases Today's Forecast http://i.uk.imwx.com/global/images/61x61/11.pngHigh 16° Sunrise: 05:14 Chance of Precip. 100% Light Rain Tonight's Forecast http://i.uk.imwx.com/global/images/61x61/11.pngLow 12° Sunset: 21:19 Chance of Precip. 90% Light Rain

Where are you racing from this weekend? How far is it for you? Which club/federation? GOOD LUCK FOLKShttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/animatedpigeons.gif

My youngsters get a capfull of cider vinegar in their drinker regularly, and will continue to do so through the racing season. Found this and thought it may be of interest; http://www.albertaclassic.com/images/spacer.gifWhy should a fancier use vinegar for his pigeons? Apple cider vinegar or just plain vinegar willacidify the contents in the crop and discourage the multiplication of trichomonas organisms. It will, however, not cure pigeons of trichomoniasis. Also, bacteria which do not like an acidic environment such as Salmonella, for example, are discouraged from multiplying in the crop. Acid loving bacteria like the lactobacilli, on the other hand, will find this a hospitable environment and can continue on their way to the colon where they will find favourable conditions for growth and multiplication. I am certain that any acid such as vinegar cannot survive its journey into the colon. It can probably pass the stomach but the very basic pancreatic juice emptying into the small intestine will most certainly neutralize it to allow the absorption of the resultant water and acetate. Although none of the vinegar ingested arrives in the large intestine how can it possibly then result in the acidification of the colonic contents? The answer lies in its favouring lactobacilli to survive the journey to the colon at the expense of bacteria like Escherichia coli andSalmonella who like a more neutral or basic ph. These lactobacilli will consequently colonize the colon and their metabolic products such as lactic acid are responsible for this observed increase in acidity.acidify the contents of the gizzard, leading to better digestion.lower the blood pressure and cholesterol level.ameliorate muscle cramps anddecrease the concentration ofEscherichia coliSalmonella andyeasts in the colon.[*]disinfect the drinking water. It is advantageous to be somewhat sceptical in our world where so many salesmen and would-be salesmen try to take advantage of gullible people and separate them from their money. Any sceptic should make the following experiment: Give some of your pigeons apple cider vinegar for 3 weeks and treat the others as usual. You may find that the group receiving the vinegar has now softer feathers and more oil spots on their feathers than the other group. You are aware, I am sure, that soft plumage and oil spots are a sign of good condition which was contributed to by the use of apple cider vinegar. You will also find them to take their exercise with more enthusiasm attesting to their better condition.http://www.albertaclassic.com/images/spacer.gifThe following schedule was recommended: In the flying season: on the 2nd and 3rd day after a race In the off season: every day for 3-4 weeks During moulting: 3-4 days per week If diarrhoea: for 5-7 dayshttp://www.albertaclassic.com/images/spacer.gifRecommended Dosage: from 5ml to 15ml vinegar per 1000ml H2O but this depends on the ph of the water. The more basic the water, the more vinegar will be required.http://www.albertaclassic.com/images/spacer.gifA dosage of 15 ml vinegar per 1000ml H2O can be used for giving them a bath, no other salts and powders being necessary, and this is said to effectively eliminate ectoparasites. It wasn't too many years ago that the droppings in some nests in my loft were excessively wet. I blamed the parents of those youngsters for feeding them too much water. Checking the crops of those youngsters revealed way too much water or not enough grain. I shouldn't have gotten angry at their parents. It would have been better to look into a mirror to find the one who was guilty of this state of affairs. The old ones were looking for salt and minerals. Since the source of these nutrients did not appeal to the old ones they drank excessively. They tried to supply their youngsters with these nutrients, a tiny amount of which could be found in the water. Adding enough vinegar to the water will result in less water feeding also as will many other substances which make the water almost non-potable. Birds won't drink too much of this stuff but it would be much better to correct the deficiency than just treating the symptoms. Vinegar is just acetic acid which will be neutralized easily by the feed in the crop since it has no buffering capacity. Adding it to the drinking water results in the birds drinking less as they do not like this acidic taste. Less water will consequently be available for the body's response to a deficiency of salt or minerals or to intestinal irritation which would normally result in diarrhea. There will therefore be less diarrhea visible and the fancier may fool himself into thinking that all is well. I found "AcidPak" to be a better water additive for discouraging the spread of Salmonella, E. coli, Trichomonas and yeast organisms. Not only do the birds like the water acidified by "AcidPak" much better than water acidified by vinegar, "AcidPak" contains enzymes and has a built-in buffering capacity insuring that the water remains acidic while in the crop.

Thats the league upto 9 members now, still room for a few more, so c,mon join in. http://www.detroitrockers.net/_images/animations/boy_kicking_soccer_ball_md_clr.gifhttp://www.detroitrockers.net/_images/animations/boy_kicking_soccer_ball_md_clr.gifhttp://www.detroitrockers.net/_images/animations/boy_kicking_soccer_ball_md_clr.gif

pm Lippa on here, she is Jim,s partnerhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0167-beer.gif