if you were in my club m8, that would not be a problemhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif we even put rings in indivdual envelopes if the member supplies them, to make it easier for them to put onto the birdshttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif the envelope will have the ring no, colour and sex of bird written on ithttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif