Roland, thought you did nt like moaning and groaning? must have taken you 5 minutes to write than moan :-/ i was speaking from personal experience MATE used them 6 times now and only 1 time has gone smoothly!! so if you had used any other service and got this crap everytime would you still use and be happy with that service? DID N THINK SO!! and if you read my last post properly i said i was not using them anymore :X so you probably gonna say why did i carry on using them? well i thought thing could only get better and never had another option before, but now i have used roger from the phantom flyer, wow what a difference, just a shame he does nt cover all areas :-/. and cheers for sticking up for me coxy, and as many of you know on here me and coxy have had our differences, but this time i agree with him 100%, your on about butting in conversations, who asked you?? if our happy with the "service" they provide why not just post that. instead of starting an argument?? > read the homing world letters pages most weeks, mant unhappy fanciers think you will find alot more than 10%, im sure tony and fifer will back me up regarding our experiences :