I think Bob, racing programs need reviewing slightly, As yes years ago, before darkness, ybs past end of august would not race due to moulting heavily. And as for the weather, well its been better in april and sept last 2/3 years, and have never know as many holdovers as last 2 years! :-) think we could race till end of september, as its along long winter :-) alot of people have 2 teams ( not me ) If alonger race program, people may not be so inclined to jump/rush their birds so quickly, like me :-)