PIGEON_MAN

I THINK IT SHOULD BE LADIES FIRST WHAT SAY YOU LADS.

EXCEPT FOR THE ODD ONE OR TWO I HAVE NOT STAMPED MY BIRDS FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS NOW AS I FIND THAT THE COILED RINGS WITH EITHER YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS OR TELEPHONE NUMBER ON TO WORK JUST AS WELL.A FEW YEARS BACK I ALLWAYS PURCHASED ENOUGH RINGS WITH MY TELEPHONE NUMBER ON AND RUNG THE YOUNGSTERS WITH THEM ON ONE LEG AND THE NORMAL RPRA RING ON THE OTHER THESE WOULD THEN STAY ON THE BIRD FOR LIFE,(THESE WERE THE PERMANENT RINGS NOT THE COILED ONES)THE PROBLEM I FOUND USING THESE WERE THAT WHEN SHOWING I SOMETIMES FOUND SOME FANCIERS WOULD MOAN BECAUSE THE BIRD HAD A RING WITH MY PHONE NUMBER ON OBVIOUSLEY THINKING THAT THE JUDGE WOULD KNOW WHO THEY BELONGED TO,SO NOW I USE THE COILED ONES WHICH CAN BE REMOVED WHEN NECCESAREY.

I MUST ADMIT I HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS AT ALL WHEN I HAVE USED AMTRAK PERHAPS I AM LUCKY THAT WE HAVE A VERY GOOD LOCAL DEPOT THAT ALLWAYS SEEMS TO BE VERY POLITE AND DO EXACTLY WHAT IS ASKED OF THEM.MY FIRST PHONE CALL THOUGTH IS ALLWAYS TO ROGER "THE PHANTOM FLYER"I HAVE ALLWAYS USED HIM SINCE HE STARTED AND FIND IS SERVICE SECOND TO NONE THE ONLY PROBLEM BEING IS THAT HE ONLY COVERS PARK OF THE COUNTRY.BEING A PIGEON FANCIER HIM SELF HE KNOWS EXACTLY HOW TO TREAT THE BIRDS AND FEEDS AND WATERS THEM IF HE NEEDS TO AS SOMETIMES HE MAY KEEP THEM A EXTRA NIGHT IF IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR HIM TO DELIVER THEM WHEN HE IS COMING THIS WAY,WHICH HE CHARGES NO EXTRA FOR.

THOUGHT THESE WERE NEW OUT THIS LAST FEW WEEKS "G10,S HIGH PERFORMANCE PELLET,S"MADE BY GEM.COULD BE WRONG THOUGH CHEERS HEATHCOTE.

THINK THE NEW PELLET FROM GEM LOOKS A GOOD BUY ESPECIALLY WITH THE ADDED GEMTHEPAX IN SAVES BUYING THIS SEPARATLEY WHICH IS QUITE EXPENSIVE.I NORMALLY WOULD BUY THE BREEDING PELLETS FROM BAMFORDS AND MIX IN WITH BEANS AND THEIR BREED AND WEEN MIXTURE BUT THOUGHT I WOULD GIVE THESE NEW PELLETS A TRY,HOPEFULLY THEY WITH GIVE AS GOOD RESULTS.

PERSONALLY I DONT BREED LATEBREDS,REASONS,DONT LIKE TO KEEP BIRDS THROUGH THE WINTER THAT HAVE NOT RACED,I WOULD NOT BREED LATEBREDS TO KEEP FOR STOCK NO MATTER WHAT THEY WERE BRED OFF INFACT I WOULDN,T KEEP A PIGEON FOR STOCK JUST BECAUSE IT WAS BRED OFF A CERTAIN PIGEON EITHER.

MY GRANDFATHER RACED PIGEONS AND I BELIEVE HIS GRANDFATHER BEFORE HIM USED TO KEEP FANCY PIGEONS SO I HAVE BEEN AROUND PIGEONS ALL MY LIFE,WE FORMED A PARTNERSHIP ABOUT 1967 AND I HAVE BEEN RACING EVER SINCE.

YEA YOUR RIGHT JIM (AS USUAL) THIS IS ANOTHER THING A CLUB WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO BEFORE IT DISSOLVED,THE FACT THAT IT MIGHT FINNISH UP IN DEBT BY TAKING THIS DECISSION.

HI ALAN,HAVE BEEN USING A STRETTON COMPUTER AND PROGRAMME FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS NOW TO DO OUR CLUB RESULTS FIND IT VERY GOOD ALSO ANY PROBLEMS WE HAVE HAD OVER THE YEARS I FIND THEY ARE ALLWAYS VERY HELPFULL, ALLTHOUGHI HAVE NOT CONTACTED THEM FOR A FEW YEARS NOW THE PHONE NUMBER I HAVE FOR THEM IS 01694-723480 HOPE THIS WILL BE OF USE TO YOU.

YOUR RIGHT BART IF THE CLUB WAS DISSOLVED ALL THE ASSETS IN THE CLUB WOULD HAVE TO BE SHARED EQUALLY AMONGST THE MEMBERS.THE CLUB WOULD HAVE TO RESIGN FROM THE FEDERATION E.T.C. AND RE APPLY AGAIN.PERHAPS IF THERE WERE GENUINE FANCIERS IN THE FED THEY WOULD REALISE WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND NOT EXCEPT THE NEW CLUB IN.I,M AFRAID THINGS LIKE THIS ARE HAPPENING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY,INSTEAD OF NUCKLING DOWN AND TRYING HARDER TO BEAT THE FANCIER CONCERED SO CALLED FANCIERS WOULD SOONER TAKE THIS ROUTE.

MUST AGREE WITH CLOCKMAN AGAIN. THERE ARE RULES WHICH IN NEARLY ALL THESE CASES MUST BE ADHERED TO.

CANT SEE WHAT ALL THE FUSS IS ABOUT CLOCKMAN AS VERIFIED WHAT I GUESSED ALL ALONG.

CAN SOMEONE IN SCOTLAND PLEASE ANSWEAR MY PREVIOUS POINT ON THE RULES UP THERE,BECAUSE IF THEY ARE THE SAME AS DOWN HERE YOU CANNOT MOVE THE BOUNDARIES OF A CLUB TO PUT OUT A MEMBER THAT IS ALLREADY IN THAT CLUB.PERHAPS I HAVE READ IT WRONG AS THE CLUB THIS FANCIER IS TRYING TO JOIN CHANGED THE BOUNDARIES TO STOP HIM GETTING IN IF SO THAT IS A DIFFERANT THING ALL TOGETHER,BUT EVEN THEN IF HE IS IN THE BOUNDARY OF THE CLUB HE WISHES TO JOIN IT IS STILL UP TO THE MEMBERS WEATHER THEY VOTE HIM IN OR NOT, THERES NO NEED TO MOVE THE BOUNDARIES.

GREAT POSTING GEZ AGREE IOO% MAYBE SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT THE E.T.S.WILL GIVE FANCIERS A UNFARE ADVANTAGE SHOULD READ YOUR LAST COUPLE OF LINES AND REALISE IT IS NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH THE CLOCKING SYSTEM YOU USE

NOT SURE WHAT THE RULES ARE IN SCOTLAND BUT DOWN HERE YOU COULD NOT MOVE THE BOUNDARIES TO PUT OUT A MEMBER IF HE IS ALLREADY IN THE CLUB,THE ONLY WAY IS IF THAT MEMBER MOVED HIS LOFT OUTSIDE OF THE ORIGINAL BOUNDERY.ON THE POINT OF A GOOD FLYER JOINING THE CLUB AT THE END OF THE DAY IT IS UP TO THE MEMBERS WHO THEY WANT TO VOTE INTO THE CLUB EVEN IF THE FANCIER IS IN THE BOUNDARY THERE IS NO RULE TO SAY YOU MUST ALLOW HIM TO JOIN.

SORRY HYACINTH MUST DISAGREE WITH YOU AS HENRIK SAID DONT GO BLAIMING THE CLOCKING SYSTEM IF A GUY CLOCKS 20 BIRDS IN BEFORE MY BIRD THEN MY BIRD WAS NOT AS GOOD AS HIS 20,ITS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE E.T.S.CLUBS COULD PUT A LIMIT AS TO HOW MANY BIRDS A FANCIER COULD CLOCK BUT EVEN THEN YOU WOULD BE GETTING A FALSE POSITION IN THE RACE IF YOU STOPPED THE GUY CLOCKING ALL HIS BIRDS THAT HAD ARRIVED HOME BEFORE YOURS.A E.T.S. SYSTEM WILL NOT MAKE ANYBODY A BETTER FLYER IT IS THE BIRDS AND THE SYSTEM YOU FLY.I WILL DEFINATELY VOTE FOR THE E.T.S. IF GIVEN A CHANCE WEATHER I CAN AFFORD IT IS A NOTHER MATTER.

NOT SURE WHAT THE RULES ARE IN SCOTLAND BUT DOWN HERE YOU COULD NOT MOVE THE BOUNDARIES TO PUT OUT A MEMBER IF HE IS ALLREADY IN THE CLUB,THE ONLY WAY IS IF THAT MEMBER MOVED HIS LOFT OUTSIDE OF THE ORIGINAL BOUNDERY.ON THE POINT OF A GOOD FLYER JOINING THE CLUB AT THE END OF THE DAY IT IS UP TO THE MEMBERS WHO THEY WANT TO VOTE INTO THE CLUB EVEN IF THE FANCIER IS IN THE BOUNDARY THERE IS NO RULE TO SAY YOU MUST ALLOW HIM TO JOIN.

HI CAROL,JUST WONDERING IF YOU GIVE POINTS BECAUSE THERE IS A TROPHY AT THE END OF THE SEASON OR FOR SOME OTHER REASON.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEND MY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE WINNER OF THE FIRST ONLINE SHOW,IGUESS THE NAME OF THE WINNER WILL BE ANNOUCHED LATER SO WHO EVER IT MAY BE WELL DONE A CRACKING PHOTO,ALSO LIKE TO ADD A THANK YOU TO ALL WHO VOTED 85 MEMBERS I BELEIVE A VERY GOOD RESPONCE TO A BRILLIANT IDEA.ROLL ON THE NEXT ONE,LOOKING FORWARD TO VEIW THE FANCY PIGEON ENTRIES.

HEAR WHAT YOU SAY PECKEDHEN AND BASICALLY AGREE ONLY INJECT MINE BECAUSE I HAVE TO PROBABLE WOULDN,T DO IT IF I HAD THE CHOICE.IKNOW SOME FANCIERS WHO INJECT FOR PIGEON POX BUT CHOSE NOT TO MYSELF AS I SAID BEFORE NOT CERTAIN WEATHER INJECTING EVERY YEAR IS INFACT DOING THE BIRDS ANY GOOD.HAD ANY MORE OF YOUR WHITE ONES RETURN.

PECKEDHEN,KNOWING HOW MUCH YOU LOVE YOUR BIRDS AS WE ALL DO HOW COULD YOU EVER FORGIVE YOURSELF IF ONE DAY A STRAY WITH PARAMYXO DROPPED IN AND MIXED WIYH YOUR BIRDS.GOOD ADVISE BY BRUNO NO OFFENCE MATE BUT I THINK NOT.

GOT THE SAME PROBLEM THIS END.

LOOKS AS IF THE CHAT ROOM IS DOWN AGAIN ANY BODY ANY INFO OR CAN YOU GET ON TO IT.

LOKS LIKE THAT SHOULD READ TROLLS.

SO SORRY SAM GETTING YOU MIXED UP.