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this thread is about avian flu!! heres a link to eu press statement http://europa.eu.int/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=IP/06/195&format=HTML&aged=0&language=EN

iam maybe reading it wrong fifer sorry we will see if the south roaders turn north whether clashing will be worse or the same

not scared of clashing just trying to come up with ideas to stop clashing anyone one who says ybs flying so close does not contribute to such heavy losses has there head up there rectum!!!!!! until the french& belgians say no racing sure 31st march is when the eu meeting takes place but people on this forum know already :

HOW CAN PORTSMOUTH, PLYMOUTH, AND MANY OTHERS ETC FLY SOUTH IF THEY ARE NOT GETTING OVER THE CHANNEL????? who says there not getting over the channel?

clockman iam just new to this game do you think there is no clashing? why is there so many pigeons lost and never reported? why can a few birds make it in race time and others dont?

mark what about cherbourg or caen in france to portsmouth how fars that?

TMakowecki Pipa Super Fan Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 400 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 6:00 Post subject: I need help ! ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I was surfing some pigeon auctions and I came across a band number that rang a bell - NL-03-1087753 being sold.....at the IPC BV website. http://www.defondkrant.be/veiling/pigeon.php?id=9604 I bought this pigeon via auction 2 years ago on TopPigeons.NL and had Jan de Wijs ( Pigeonplaza.com NOW Europigeons.nl) pick it up for sending it to me.....in Canada....IT NEVER ARRIVED ! THIS pigeon NL-03-1087753 disappeared - He swore it was sent to Canada but it never arrived to the man who quarantined them and obviously NEVER came to me. I have emailed IPC BV a couple times and I hope that they will respond to me. I would like to know who is selling this pigeon and how they got this pigeon? ANYONE BUYING BIRDS BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU BUY!!!!!!!!

does the l/secc not fly south route from france? what iam trying to say is every pigeon in the uk should be on south route

why does say north roaders not just fly the south route no east to west or west to east allowed only south routes allowed corridors made east central and west west of scotland ,cumbria,liverpool,wales devon must fly the west corridor southhampton, birmingham yorkshire manchester must fly cental route london,hull,newcastle east coast of scotland fly east route i think its a bit of commonsense but a lot of hard work to get the corridors correct and people will say we have always flown this route change is needed to help our birds what do you think?

bruno i watched the liberation from ripon i think 2002 of lanrkshire federation so after the lib i sat down to have my lbreakfast some 20 mins later a batch of 300-400 birds returned then carried on flying around ripon race course for 50 mins i phoned my mate to let him know what had happend they had the winners doing a great time then big gaps with plenty missing that night weather that day at the race point great morning sunshine no wind & could see for miles

england 10 liberations scotland 3 liberations wales 2 liberations here in scotland midlothian,east of scotland,dundee,fife,pentland north west--- one liberation south lanarkshire,lanarkshire,glasgow,midland,ayrshire ----one liberation aberdeen angus,north of scotland -----one liberation south feds may race with cumbria or nehu wales south wales one lib north wales one lib england dont know the areas anyone fill in the blanks

MY FATHER USED TO HAVE A CAT SLEEP IN THE NEST BOX I THINK THE CAT BEING A KITTEN AND YOUNG BIRDS THAT WERE USED TO THE CAT WOULD BE OK

YES TONIGHT

WELL DONE WINGS BLOOTERED I HEARD IS THIS TRUE?

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've now moved home find me here -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Clunk The Raptor Foundation Length 58-73cm 23-29" Wingspan 150-200cm 60-79" Weight 1600-4200g 56-148oz While matched in weight by Snowy Owls, in wingspan by Verraux's Eagle Owls (Bubo lacteus) & length by Powerful Owls (Ninox strenua), overall, the Eurasian Eagle Owl is the world's largest owl. Despite its size, they are generally a good-natured bird, preferring to shy away from contact with people, rather than chase them away. Eurasian Eagle Owls are found throughout Europe, Scandinavia, Russia, the Middle East & Asia, with some being found breeding as far south as the Sahara in Africa. Currently, they are not found in the wild as far East as Japan, or as far west as the British Isles. Some are found in the northern reaches of the Indian subcontinent, & until recently, the Indian Eagle Owl, living throughout the subcontinent, was considered to be a subspecies of the Eurasian Eagle Owl (Bubo bubo bengalensis), but is now regarded as a separate species (Bubo bengalensis). The Eurasian Eagle Owl was once resident in the UK, but was hunted to extinction during the late 19th century (NOTE - the RSPB does question this view & says that the evidence is very slim.). This was done mainly by gamekeepers & farmers, concerned on them preying on their livestock. Unlike many other birds of prey, their was some justification to their fears, the owls can take large prey, but it is unlikely that they could do enough to warrant hunting them to extinction. It has also been suggested that other reasons for hunting them were for stuffing as ornaments & for the fashion trade, the long feathers being in particular demand to adorn hats. There are reports of some Eagle Owls living in the wild in the UK, it is most likely that these birds are escaped or (illegally) released captive birds, rather than migrants. (I have also seen one reference to a small reintroduction programme in this country but haven't been able to find any details). The Eurasian Eagle Owl hunts predominantly at dusk & into the early night. They have occassionally been found sharing territories with Golden Eagles, with the eagles hunting during the day & the owls at night. They are not prepared to live peacefully with all birds of prey though, in particular goshawks. They have also been found to drive away Peregrines from near to their nesting sites. They have been reported as regularly preying on buzzards, goshawks, gyrfalcons, Tawny Owls, Long-Eared Owls & other small birds of prey, including their young. While other birds, such as ducks, pheasants, pigeons & crows, may be taken (often in flight), their main prey is mammals. They are able to catch prey spreading a large range of sizes, from mice & voles, through rabbits & hares, up to foxes, young sheep & roe deer. They are able to hunt in woods & forests, but due to the large size, especially the wingspan, they prefer more open spaces. Throughout their range they may be found in all types of habitat, from the cold pine forests of Northern Scandinavia, down through the cooler forests & pastures of middle Europe to the hot deserts of the Sahara. It will nest in woodland & on cliff faces. Being able to survive of such a range of habitat, being able take such a large range of prey & having few natural enemies (due to its size), it was once a highly successful bird. Unfortunately, the number in the wild are on the decline. Although common in some regions in others they are treated as endangered, suffering from the threats affecting most birds of prey. In captivity though, they are relatively easy to breed & their number (already large) is increasing. Breeding takes place from February through to July. The female usually lays 1 or 2 eggs, very rarely as many as 4, the number may be dependant on the available food supply. The female incubates the eggs on her own (taking 32-35 days), while the male brings her food, this continues for the first four or five weeks after hatching, when the female will help to catch food for the young. It is not uncommon for 1 of the young to die while still in the nest & this will be eaten by any remaining young. They are able to fly at around seven to eight weeks after hatching, but are dependant on their parents for some time after. It is usually late autumn by the time they are fully independant. There is often a high mortality rate during the first winter, but if they survive that first winter, in the wild, they may live up to 20 years. In captivity they have been recorded living up to 60 years. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IUCN Red List Status :

every saturday during the race season i feel like packing them in and a wednesday if iam racing with the midweek club :D

http://plants.thompson-morgan.com/uk/en/product/2131/1?SA=1303 check this out for the cat plant !!

pisspot is the name of the plant your looking for bruno

well done hyacinth have a budweiser on me hyacinth got a website address for springhill pigeon club florida?

thanks bossman web man says there to big!!!!!!

my new avators are to big for pigeon basics so thought i would share with all

THIS EMAIL WAS FROM A FRIEND Hi Frank, We were in Poland and we got out savely and we had a lot of luck. From the Belgians who were there 1 died , he was a friend of us and 5 min. before he was still with us. He went to his shop to tell them to close it , so we could go back to our hotel and we would spend the night , because he knew some places to celibrate the good fair we had until that time. But 5 min. later he was death together with my translator and a friend of Hungary. We were under the roof but we could get out after 2 or 3 min. It was incredible what we saw when we came out and everything in disorder, panic and we couldn’t find our friends but after 1h we just still missed 3 persons and after 2h we knew that they probably would be death , because they didn’t answer their mobiles. And Sunday morning is was confirmed that they were death. It was unbelievable how fast it happened in 5 sec. everything was down it was like domino blocks. The guys who were on the other side (in our backs) 6 of the 9 died and we were just separated by 1 wooden plate. I don’t know how we got out but we are save and healthy. Thanks for Your mail And I hope I see sometime Greetings, Eric

thanks jimmy i still have some old birds for breeding at my mothers house as iam moving the ybs to my own address this season i sadly had to pass up wings offer of ybs as i go on holiday in march so going to pair the old birds that i have left in march before i go holiday should have a small team this season

sorry stewart been working a lot thanks for the advice bought a bird last year at blackpool cost £35 bred two very good birds for a friend i dont think the price matters maybe luck plays a more important part

top flyer is wings good ybs i wish i could take them my loss is someones gain