i have sais before on here a few years back a fancier from the east of scotland was fined heavily for protecting his birds from birds of prey Now we as pigeon fanciers we sat back and done nothing myself included as fanciers we should have done all we could to help this man and pay his fine I think as fanciers if we had done this we would have shown all that we were not going to stand back and watch our birds be killed and our friends be persicuted for protecting there birds