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never heard alan :-/

;D ;D we can still dream cant we gareth ? ps some get nose bleeds at 250 mile ;D ;D ;D

try joe 61 his son spencer has some good one im sure .

brilliant austin someone with a proud history of national diplomas from france ,i would love to get back to that kind of race program with three races and more birds in each ,oh and forgot to mention the two nationals back together again . sartilly /clermont 3000 birds , reims /rennes 4000 birds and tours /nantes 1500/2000 birds now that would be racing would it not ?

the thing is danny that from penzance you would be flying the same distance as cockburnspath /eyemouth and in a west wind you/we would be further behind, jmo.

les i have never said that a percy can catch a pigeon at level flight but can outrun one no probs but pigeons are better at manouvering, percy catches them in a stoop normally catching our beloved pigeons off guard .surprise attack .

crap post i have watched my birds getting hit by percy training(stoop) ,soon after lib splitting them up some heading for the cover of trees the rest scampering away in all directions at FULL TILT ,then percy turns and chased them and caught up within a few hundred yards no probs and all this about 50 yards off the ground so as i have said if you havent watched it happen then dont coment thanx, ps it never got any but did outrun my healthy fit young birds giving them a head start .THIS IS FACT

well les ive been in this wonderful SPORT NOT HOBBY longer than most on here (33 years) and i used the word mob as its the only way of putting it for the ordinary fancier out there(but ther very carefull they dont get too close to percy) ,and i do read up on the ways of bop's ,and will agree that a percy will catch and take a pigeon in a straight line without the stoop ,and also have witnessed a sparrowhawk on the tail of a pigeon at full tilt until they both went out of sight maybe 100 yards .

i'll answer you whitty , most of my birds sent to our inland race are trainers and one or two with a couple of pound on as well as its a fed duplication race .I think like some of the other posters, do away with these inland NATS races as feds/combines could easily do them as they used to do . and to all them out there stating it gives the new starts/novices a chance to compete at national level ,i say no probs they can but over the water like it used to be ,the holy grail A DIPLOMA FROM THE NATIONAL ,SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF ,not an easy one from the coast (my opinion) TEN A PENNY .

frank will tell us im sure .i dont have the birds for it just now walter or i would love to enter ,ps the first year when pete patrick timed the hair on the back of my head stood up i was over the moon for him ,what a feeling it must have been ,hopefully i will get that feeling some day

naw mate naw for me ,time on the day or time next morn does it realy matter as long as your well in jmo, ps the birds that are timed from saintes are timed on the second day and afternoon at that go on have a go at a real distance race .

never mind a gun ,get one like a percy ,fly it about its nest site with a small bit of semtex and a detonator and when percy comes a calling then BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM BY BY PERCY .

what would that be to the north boys frank 800 plus miles wow thats a long distance race , rebus who knows why more dont send ,maybe its the snrpc thing were this and that ,we are here now and going well ,we have lots of duel members of the snfc and snrpc , the saintes race is recognised by the snrpc but its open to anyone thats a member of the NFC and THE RPRA , PS YOUR NO JUMPIN SHIP IF YOU DECIDE TO HAVE A GO AT SAINTES SO COME ON HAVE A GO BOYS . HEY WALTER DID YOU READ THE FIRST PART over 800 miles ?

both mate but as frankdooman says its normally in a strong wind ,just like the buzzard does ,and i know the size of cock and hen s/h's

well our race program for 2010 is for only one inland nat from prob wanstead flats 357 miles to me ,then our gold medal race 590 miles to me then our long race around 630 miles, then saintes 750 miles, then our short france race around 490 miles , not for the faint hearted

NO MATE, I KNOW THE S/H DOES HOVER but not for long but it defo does mate.

seems to be a lot of unhappy campers in the snfc ,maybe the snrpc membership might increase in 2010 ? ;)

i know that a sparrowhawk does hover but it does circle high in the sky occasionaly, this is when my birds head towards it and they seem to usher it away ,ps i have better eyesight than most .isnt that right frank?

quality as usual duncan.

i have to agree with shotgun tim ive seen my doo's mob sparrowhawks ,percy and buzzards many a time ,if they are close to them they cant stoop on them jmo.

welcome to our great sport mav ,only one thing is its very time cosuming if you want to compete and win

good try ;D

you never know if times get hard danny ha ha ( worth well over £1000 )going with the up to date gold rates .

i have a gold medal( 2 oz) thats mine for ever mate thats fine for me .no disrespect to the gold cup intended