well here goes i must apologize to jamie for getting the days mixed up as it seems to have been fuel for some folks fire.i will explain how this happened i was informed by the seller that they were getting picked up on the monday but not by whom so was expecting my birds like at latest the next night as it turned out it was j d cooper who never turned up so the seller then contacted pigeon tracker (but never informed me) who picked up on the tueday and delivered wednesday evening 6pm ish birds well and in good condition in carrrier boxes floored with shavings.hope this helps to clear up the confusion iv caused and also met jamie face to face with my kids and he struck us all as being a very friendly and genuine person sorry again for any grief iv caused you or your business and will definitely use you again when needed thank you