collins and stevens

Hiya mate, it is a not a case of which is the best system its the compatability and the knowledge of the systems used within your own club. We use the tipes system and have found it very simple to set and knockoff the races on the Bricon master,the unikon master and indeed on its own tipes master.The system can run 32 x 4 field pads withought boosting. Your best direction will be given I feel by the ets setters in your club as knowledge is gained on compatability and usage. Tipes is £295 with clock ,lead and 2field pads I believe it to be good value and v.v.compatable.

Stalybridge clear and calm a little overcast....nr manchester

you strike off ETS ??? I think the variance is in your manual clock strike .......you can strike off your manual clocks to the clock on your master ets as it is synchronised with TIM automatically.

In the case of tipes/tauris once clocked and the ets taken to the club its plugged into the master, the tipes /tauris hand set displays the time on itself for printing , the unikon has the pocket clock(memory stick) plugged into the master and its info downloaded via the display on the master station. If there was a variance on the tipes/tauris you would see it on the clock but you couldn't see it on the unikon pocket clock.....in any case the master just prints the info. :-/ I have never seen a variance on any of these systems to date........maybe I'm missing something .....once synchronised with the atomic clock can the system vary?? Maybe someone who reads this knows technically how to clear this one up......I am but a humble fancier trying to do the right thing regards 3 way testing.... :-/

Good statements and clarifications in the last reply ..thx .If you have to 3 way test the ets its like 3 way testing TIM as the atomic clock drives the systems

Once set at the club by the master the tipes does not energise again until plugged in for race....it has an atomic clock which is synchronised with the master and has no variance........is it a 3 way test(which checks for variance in time) or just a functionality check?......all seems futile as if an ets gained 10 seconds it would probably be thrown out.......unless their is a problem with greenichs atomic clock it has to be a dead clock once synchronised........doesn't it????

Why and how do you 3 way test an ets clock? If the clock is set via the club system atomic clock there is never a variance as the time after the race on your ets is the time you record.

46 year old trapped inide a 21yr olds body.......... 8)

we lost him off the loft but he was feeding and drinking with the other youngsters...........bit of an invalid really and never for racing but quite an interest with our local fanciers. I will try to get some more photos on line as he develops .

yeah....I'm a man u fan ....but Essien is pure class......credit where its due 8)

thought you meant "bert Hession"...lol ;D

Thanks jason thats why I posted the photo it seemed to fit this thread and I was interested to see how often this has occured in our members experiences

Yes we have rung the youngster he is ours and even as a curiosity he will be looked after and registered. We love to race but are animmal lovers too.

the cock has produced this with 2 different hens

The young bird last year weaned okay .....but had difficulty orientating in flight.Hopefully this years squeaker will be a bit better.Just curious though if anyone has had this themselves? When the bird first hatched it was completely naked(no down) and local flyers of repute said it would be a silver......we were all curious when red eyes opened 6 days later.

Last years had limited sight and unfortunately went off the loft.We thought we would never see one again but hey ho up pops another one this year......anyone else seen this before,,,the eyes are bright red it is not the camera flash

Is this an albino?.....fanciers near me of 50yrs have never seen one

Any one seen one of these before we bred this one last year an d one off the same cock different hen this year,

Cheers Chris , short of one cock for stock loft ...only realised after I posted auction was over :-/ Would like him if we could sort out . PM me if you can . regards Colin

£35 for lot 2....

Funniest one I heard was when one of our members got an early bird ...panicked blowing his whistle hard forgetting he had his pipe in his mouth!!!!!! missed the bird cause he was on his back covered in hot ash!!! ;D........worse was 2 mates were in attendance to see his slick movements.. ;D ;D

His birds entered under venturer mw were on open sale.....his own entered birds were under dyserth lofts think he had 7 birds in ....just my jaw hit the floor when he said it cost him 2400 pounds to pool them.....still he's shown a return !!

Presume cash ....took him at his word ...no different to any other entrant you'd think...

Pools for race now on line on Europa site.....12th bird wins over 4000 pounds ....spoke to its owner before outcome of race as he helped out in the office etc , told me he had 64 birds in the race which were sold birds under "venturer mw" heading. His birds that were in the race he had invested heavily in to (dyserth loft birds) the tune of 2400 pounds in pool money !!! But I suppose you've got to speculate to accummulate eh ? Bit rich for me though pretty short odds in my opinion.

We listened to very opinionated fanciers saying ornithose is not curable , but having an established team we sought vetinary advice . The test to pick up this desease was a blood test and after spending close on £480 pounds to test and retest after treatment (approx 30 birds tested) not 100% confident yet. Because this desease is picked up in the basket the recommendation of the belgian vets Guiselbrecht is to treat on day after race for ornithose , we did this for two seasons and excelled with over 80 fed and club cards per season and group returns.How ever we neglected to adhere to this regime for a season and although we still had good positions the group team returns dwindled and birds started to come back from shorter races really uncharacterisically tired. Maybe the use of the ornithose treatment over the previous two seasons had promoted our teams susceptability to the desease? This is a really difficu;lt desease to diagnose and very ,very difficult to comprehensively clear.