thanks lads,the problem is weve been told that we cant have another,laptop running this system,in this club,with ring details,so for instance, a national race and the system goes down,you need a back up,youve got to have back up,whats the point in paying a fortune out for systems with no backup,with all relevant details on another computer you can carry on,,so do your clubs have a back up or does unikon or the unions have rules in place for such matters,the question concerned came from a unikon rep/union office