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you would have to join a union and get rings from a regional secatary when you send your fees in

secatarys phone numbers might help

Seem to have answered your own thread :-/

Have to agree with middle to distance birds from there type

Cheers IB

just gave a 98 hen away laid last season no problem

try get a pack of dried peas the type you steap overnight will boiling water they absorb alot better if you want to do it now a handfull of corn id be putting it there now , once rats get the taste of blood they kill for fun not a nice site

as soon as they start digesting it it starts but sounds like theres quite a few id get a pickstone and put some dried peas and soak them with the antifreeze and leave near entry points sprinkle some parmisan cheese on top just to give a bit of smell obviously where birds cant get at it

EWL recovery was slower ? what does this mean

Welcome to the site markswhitedoves

Happy birthday Tammy, hope you and Chrissy have great day

how can the electrolyte levels increase ? if you have half a pint of water with 2 spoonfullls of salt and sugar only the concentration of sugars and electroltyes increase when the water depleats, not all of these sugars and minerals stay in the system the urine cap on a pigeons deposit is rich in minerals therefore showing minerals salts and sugars are excreted by pigeons as most animals. Some points i agree some i disagree but equaly a good post as i would expect from you

thanks Fair play i use Electrolytes will i stop using them ? no i would if i thought it was damaging them

it is a fact that pigeons dont sweat but there body stucture is made up from digesting cerials from starch into simple sugars and obvious they take on minerals and salt to maintain there fluid balance , after a hard flight after there food resources have been flown off they then start on stored fat , then there actualy body , after they have finished the body needs restoring , too much water can flood internal organs and actualy kill them because there mineral salt and blood sugars are low , the only effective way in my opinion to replensh this is to use electroytes to restore the sugar / salt balance , then the birds flesh can be put back on the body .

birds that are locked in to there boxes become very aggresive as they loose there social skills and dont like any other male bird as they assume they are in there terrortry , id agree if there to aggressive these birds would use most of there energy fighting and wouldnt perform very well especialy in an hold over i would also discuss putting this members birds in there own crate , he may change his methods when his own birds are getting damaged , best similar system for getting cocks like this its the coytey men in Belguim who have single cocks in boxes which are winched up with ropes they attack everything that goes near them , they even attack there owners hands

http://www.everythingforpets.com/mister_pigeon_xpl_17_electrolytes.pet/use.id.5.item_id.649.dept.0/

great news , hope you settle in and have a great 2009 season are you going to break the birds to your new position ?

fire away theres always someone willing to help

hi John k Welcome to the site if you dont get the information off here then try thr R.P.R.A and ask for clubs in your area heres there link http://www.rpra.org/ContactUs/tabid/71/Default.aspx

never come across it guess a swab test to make sure all is ok , he aint feeding black minerals is he ? just a thought

well done Heather

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kirky be there as well im chaufer

aye well i wont miss you this year lol

tut tut well you will miss me im there both days