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our club is an invitation club so not able to get grants i shall be getting an ets maybe this season maybe next depends how my finances allow its a big investment and i want to be certain the next best thing since sliced bread is going to last before the mould appears and newer improved systems appear

If they were to take a cut in the profit of the ring sales they would have gone with the company that offered the most lucrative deal and thus cutting the others ets systems out of the markets enforing the passing of one system for all , after all not all ets rings are compatable thats why you buy from them from the manifacturer of the machine you use not for any ets manifacturer

it will improve results for a few whilst others are thumbling about loft getting rubber of first bird ets will have clocked 6 birds , others see first been grabbed and dont want to come in week after bird that was manualy clocked sits out not wanting to under go same prodedure after last race so guess im one that believes it can improve the effectiveness of trapping seconds cost races but yes you have to get them home first no mater what clock you use , and there will be just as many winners clocked on manual cocks

no more rubbers would see the end of the t3s in time , if they aint selling rubbers for racing im sure they'll shut shop cant run a buisness at a loss thats for certain , then where would it leave the t3's

i can't see them going in the bin , but i can se the demand for rubber rings declining and they go out of buisness if no market for there produce

wellcome to pigeon basics i hope you enjoy the site

they wouldnt need to employ as many people to produce the rings but the greatest fear is they bring newer systems out and make the current ones obsolete by discontinuing the rings

i think even more would of rebeled at the system been brought in if that was the case at least we all have the choice of which system we wish to use

spot on pjc no reason why they can intigrate now

Brian Clayburn if one lofters are to go buy so best birds are in uk

too many Varables , a bad racer usualy gets lost but then you end up with some birds that home rather than race a pigeon will show its worth as a yearling in my view , a stock pigeon till had 3 rounds or 3 different pairing if nothing does any good then gone , a two year old bird is at it's best

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ill be flying dual widowhood for old birds and ybs natural just training for me

welcome to pigeon basics the rabster i hope you enjoy the site

muttley1 but maybe a bit too far

was he a greyhound your mate ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

where do you put the pigeons ? ;D ;D ;D ;D

i use same geraldy ones with roof top box great baskets i put grills in bottom and as you say very clean and hygenic

contact lindasmith@rpra.org via email and ask for clubs in your area obviously give you name and address and most importantly postcode

it was my reply to his first thread he deleted i was lazy copied and pasted it ;D ;D ;D

what you looking for fancy or racing pigeons ? and if the later do you want sprint middle or distance birds ? have you joined a club yet ? if so ask the secatary to ask a few of the other members if they could breed you a few

well the wet dropping can be a number of thing from safflower in the seeds been off to the stress of been out of the comfort zone of the loft or indeed ailling , they could be eating the smaller seeds and filling themselves with water so they feel full but as there now flying a little they may need a more nutrianal feed , beding on the floor with ybs helps them from not been in contact with there own droppings , it could well be something or nothing so get them tested perhaps mix a small amount of grit in there feed may help the cider vinegar is a good idea as will stablise there gut and be hostile to bacterrial infections naturaline is good for this as well and some vitamins wouldnt go a miss either.

lol i do sleep now and again thought deeply at hibernating fer winter ;D ;D ;D ;D

yup that red sicks out and the grizzle looks out of place you can send them to me ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D nice birds hope theres more than a few winners in there