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thats correct Mick thats why i only ever buy hens in as there true line of herritage is from the dam unless each pair has its own flyte or each cock has 3 or more hens on bull this is one of the reasons i wont right a pedigree out as i think its more honest to breed good birds than a jumped up piece of paper unless as stated above seperate breeding pens

;D ;D ;D ;D nice one ;-)

theres sibbling test out now as Dna testing has somewhat come on leaps and bounds , so it still is possible ;-)

i take that you aint got a clue , when does the young birds eye change in colour ? the eye continuly changes in a full colour eye a yearlings eye can get better as say a 4 year old but if took two pictures one as yealing one as 4 year old of same eye they'd be different , spouting half baked facts thats your perogative been more factual is mine ;-)

Well from been a wee boy i have had pigeons via my great uncle and he kept both racers and fancy birds in two seperate lofts , and as long as i can rember these lofts were never cleaned very often and bone dry well ventilated and when i got older i cleaned them out , but these birds never ailed and were never treated for anything if ill it dint fit the bill so was removed , my uncle was a bit obsessed with the racers having fantails mainly the cocks so if a blue on had one id tell him knowing it be removed ;-) , well anyway i grew up was finaly allowed a loft bought a few pigeons ectra and kept them as pets no ailments no medications then decided to race disaster they werent up to it dropping werent right had various diseases , got friendly with a great fancier and he showed me the way of the medicine bottle and the vet had a great success but after 2 years of winning everything my birds werent fit for purpous , they were weak and why because too much treating and picked up everything in the basket going as i had weakened there immune systems . Now i have spent a few years a long with a vet and test for many years i went to the vet to test and i have treated when needed i've looked for natural products and have finaly arrived at a point where i dont treat i prevent using just a few products and work with there natural immunity , dry droppings are fine for your birds they can even get vitamins from eating them , i used to clean like i had a OCD , but now i enjoy my birds have deeplitter in 2 lofts others i scrape , i dont clean much during breeding as this can cause the birds stress however i do far better things like stoke the birds heads on the nest and play with the ybs better for them to be happy than clean ;-) at the moment as getting closer to racing my birds are getting cleaned out early morning and after first race be cleaned out twice a day , but as you can see if you want short term gain treat your pigeons within a inch of there life they'll win for 2 or 3 seasons by 4 th you'l be itching yer heed and wondering why same birds arent no good any more , Enjoy your birds ;-) 8)

please tell me how you can dermine a ybs eye ? be a bulleye perhaps you dont know as much as you purport ?????

Had to explain Dna testing to a Busheart great many years ago he was a millionaire so right up his street ;-) but i have never had a dna test for any pigeons i either like them and buy them or dont so regardless of who's the daddy i follow the true line of herritage that of the hen she lays the eggs so as the saying goes mummys baby , daddys maybe ;-)

ok in the case of a bull - eyed pigeon who would be the father if your still right you can check from the eyes rember eyes take time to develop properly so i would say only way of determing any sire is to ensure the pair is in its own flyte till eggs laid bull-eyed pigeons is a full colour eye you would find on a pied / grizzle or white , and doesnt show the eyes true full colour ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D what an IQ

Wrong you can dna the cocks against the young birds ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

i feel a post brewing ill type one when i get back from the school run ;-)

was sent it earlier lol

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this i agree with , just look at hospitals and super bugs as there too clean and the bugs form resistant strains exactly same when over medicate and treat birds blind good post i tried to refrain from posting ;-)

you will be the daddy to one chick lol ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

im not a mod on there ;-) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

same here even from internet fresh search no go no refresh no site :-/

as restoring from datebase old pms will comeback id imagine

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ring council and see if any allotments have permision for pigeons ;-) other alternative get a partner i suppose theres many old hands that could do with a help / partner , or place a advert for land / grazing to put a loft on ;-) welcome to pigeon basics Tilbrook28 i hope you enjoy the site

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had all colours win reds , grizzles, yellows even a blue bar still have him at stock ;-) ;D ;D ;D ;D

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