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which ets system ?

she too busy playing wii guitar to read this lol ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

i've already got one sat on sofa she repeats herself over and over i tend to not listen as im on here typing ............................. ooops thats our lass ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

i have to put a African grey parrot on a nest with ybs next im bound to get someone in the know tellling me that pigeons dont have bright red tails and hooked beaks ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

173 posts great thread ;-)

Have to agree 99% of the time if a birds ailing when rests fine i would isolate give a few days no better then it goes in garden , ill or weak birds are gateways for illness in the loft if a birds constitution is sound they rarely ail if the managements right

terrible news its happening to frequently these days

as phill states collect fresh droppings mix in to a paste fill tub and a couple of swabs and send away simple as that , at least if the need to treat arises you can treat with a spectrum specific to the bacteria or what ever ailment you have as the drop the samples to see what treatment responds to best , treating blindly can make ailments worse as can give the pathogens the right enviroment to multiply

birds were in a1 condition bone dry ;-) and my Mate did a cracking job

much cheaper than treating blind and reducing your birds natural immunity then at least you find out if your birds are good enough if your managements right

if you cant be bothered to sift through that post heres there site ;-) http://www.eastriding.gov.uk/az/face_content_frame_proc?p_ref=APP170&p_media=INTERNET&p_spec=SPEC948

id advise to find a more local vet as the chats i have are very informative im sure theres a Defra Vet in your area however there details are on the thread below , they may know of someone that is closer to you , however there prices are £30 for a full test including canida / respirity http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1228902810/ Regards Mark

Well done guys ;-)

as you know i was away for a week on holiday and the birds were no worse for the great care they had by my good friend and was done on my system , and as said you can see there healthy i choose to leave the droppings in to show i have no wet feeders in my loft and for those who like robust young birds can se that for themselves i could of cleaned then taken photos but then the box would of looked slightly damp and could give the impression of been wet feeders , so as anyone of any knowledge can clearly see is 1 it was on purpose , 2 the health of the birds can be seen , 3 i werent hiding anything as clearly not in my nature to clean and decieve

well im certain my ybs are 100% fine or id not post any pictures up yes you have an opinion and are free to use it , and not when cant give an answer to another topic you cant ;D ;D ;D ;D , i have my vets report and anyone wishing to check with my vet can do so , and i have this displaid so i can guarentee all my ybs sent out to be in a1 condition anything inferior is removed before ringing and ones that i think wouldnt meet the grade also get removed , it goes to show that i for one would only sell birds of quality and a bill of health which i display freely , my good name is at risk if i did otherwise , i have all my cards on the table nothing to hide and i have no need to sell any birds , however if asked i will sell birds at a price that i deam fair taking into consideration of the cost of these birds have been . No pedigrees are sent out as i wish the birds to be flown and not sold on for profit , hence i will get a good reputation and no-one will profit for my birds other than winning for themselfs however i give details of the parents if birds have then in turn won and a small fee is sent i will furnish the pedigree with the informtion i have

he'll look in to it perhaps it be in there eyes somewhere if he can answer anything truthfully ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

dont expect me to rise to your comments , your comments hold no weight , im still waiting for these great eye relivations on another thread which you couldnt answer hence your on this thread ;-) as for the ybs better to show there true state than clean and show a perfect box with no indicators to the birds health , as for the usage of the word stud well as you dont race and breed for profit i call that a stud wheres your results ???????

yes they do and theres alot you can see like no wet feeders no wet boxes just strong robust ybs will a excellent bill off health and can prove my birds to be 100% clear of diseases as there 100% immune anyone wishing to see my lab results can , i dont suppose 'Timbara lofts stud' would do this ;-)

mine works better after a week in Spain ;-) but as you can se by the photos the birds look good on it ;-)

hi Blaz i think you need to take it up with Richard privately and hopefully it can be resolved

Bloke that tought me did same

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perhaps more would watch if all dressed like her fer female jockeys ;-) ;D ;D ;D ;D

best thing to put on a horses back was lady g'diver ;-) sod the spelling ;-) ;D ;D ;D save you lots of :D :D :X :X