couldn't of said it better myself tarzan...... i would like to know how good or how bad my birds perform every week regardless, if the are good then happy days and if they are bad then better birds/system are required.... these men take racing as it should be an thats serious, i personally do as i spend all my time preparing them for the season and i for 1 would like to know if i was 18th every week i bet the men who pulled out of the club would not be no where near as dedicated as the men who are at the top in the club... for god sake lads get up on get on with and raise your game, remember "2nd is the 1st loser"