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1st National Pau only bird in great britain on the day 33rd Hens International 4th National Dax, 2nd Section 2nd Hens International Dax 23rd International Dax 17,556 Birds 7th National Dax 8th National Vire 10th National Pau 23rd National Pau 1st Fed Bergerac + Many other 1st feds, clubs, etc open races

Janssen Pigeon front page of British Homing world This week Chantille Girl or somthing 1st RPRA one loft race 2005 Pure Janssen! They Win Again

Well everybodys entitled to their own opinion, i am just going on what i have seen, heard and tested.

Some Quotes here: Quote from Pigeon Report De Duif

Hi, yes i have hear of BUSSCHEARTS but as i said before i could not list all strains, i dont think that the busshearts pure are able to cope with todays type of racing. i know people who have crossed the busshearts which has resulted in better birds. The janssen strain has stood the test of time, many fanciers now are tyring to better this strain by crossing them this is wokring in some cases but the strain does not last very long before another is created better. where as the pure janssens have stood the test of time. The following fanciers i beleive have been the making of the pigeon sport Belgium & Holland - Janssen Arendonk, De Klak (built on the Janssen strain), Van loon, and Meulemans, Long distance strain M.Van Geel (Jan arden strain) The Janssen strain was the basis of the de klak strain where has the de klaks produced many winners jos van limpt de klak and janssen bros kept swapping birds toproduce further superstars many top names was produced from these two strains De Blauw 613, Blauwe Doffer, Mooie, Gooie, Merckx, Jonge Merckx, Janssen 019, Janssen 045, Chantilley, Showuman, Verbart 46 , verbart 55, De Generral, Jonge Generral, Bartoli, Goede Jaarling, De knook, Marietje, Witoger, DE 25, Blauw 23 duif, Racket, Racketman, De Bomber, Didi, Witenpenke. note some of these have been raced by other fanciers but are bred from direct de klak / janssen

What Colour do you think the rings will be this year>? Belgium have theirs

Our best long Distance birds haev been De Klak Crossed with G & M Gilbert Pigeons (Mainly from C g cooper & E.Deweerdt etc) I Think the de klak side puts that little extra speed in to the birds we have done well with cross winning: 1st & 10th National (BICC) Pau only bird in Great Britain on the day 4th National FC Dax 7th National Tarbes Winning The Slade Shield The E.G.L. Cox Memorial Trophy The R.W. Beard Memorial Trophy The A.W. Murray Memorial Trophy 8th Young bird National FC 2nd Hens International Dax 33rd Hens International Pau 23rd International Dax 17,526 birds 1st Federation Bergerac 192 Members sending 1,053 Birds 7th National this year and thats just a few results

Please note the comments below are my opinion only *** In my opinion the sport is dying becasue there is not enough been done to amke the sport more attractive to new starters first of all there is the common steriotype pigeon fancier i think if the sport was more up to date e.g using ETS and changes made to the racing structure may be more young fancier facilitys etc this would get more fanciers in. in holland and belgium there are far more young fanciers starting up and most have the ETS system this proves its not all that expensive its just the fanciers which dont like change holding the system from comming in to the uk. The sport needs a huge "Upgrade" More Advertsiment make it more appealing to new commers, i know many have said to me the introduction of the internet has helped make the pigeon sport more widley recognised. we should not be using ETS, working out results by hand etc the sport should move with times, i know in our club we have introduced a new young fancier he started by helping doing the result on the computer which most fanciers could not cope with so he helped with that he has now started racing. but it does not help when young fanciers help the sport work hard for clubs etc when the "exisisting fanciers" always moan about what their doing etc or finding faults when they cant do it themselves. Why do fanciers always complain about fanciers sending 100's of birds all they are doing is helping support the sport by putting money in to clubs etc you can always beat them, i have sent between 1 and 10 birds many times and beat many fanciers sending lots of birds. we need some good birdage races in uk to many clubs racing 42 birds etc this is not a race ! whats going no there should be more bigger races with 10,000 birds + thats the best racing

Not enough room for every strain, i have list listed some of the ones i have noted as been very sucessful but it says that further suggestions are welcome

What strain do you think have been the best over the years? If its not listed below please feel free to suggest a strain or cross you have been sucessful with

Sorry i dont have a show team, and wont be going to blackpool this year

Hi, the Koopman birds are very good but like all familys of birds you need to get hold of the very best otherwise you are not going to get very far with them, i have had koopman birds before not done a thing with them but then once i gave them to a friend he could not stop winning with them he won every club average and race in his 1st yb season. but i think it was the way i was racing them we race with long distance in mind but these are not the correct birds for this type of racing.

Please note i pay for the banner ad on pigeon basics and also front page adverts i haev posted a few birds for sale but some haev been repeat posts and i have only actually sold 1 bird over pigeon basics the rest were sold from the british homing world. please also notw i was not kicked off up north combine web i put an ad on there as there was a few others, i was not told there was a seperate section for this i was told by admin and i moved it and everything was sorted out, the admin agreed that it was not clear where to post these ad's

I thought it was Pigeon basics Fund Auction not Clockmans he was the kind person who offered to and organise the fund auction to help contribute to the web site funds required.

I thought it was Pigeon basics Fund Auction not Clockmans he was the kind person who offered to and organise the fund auction to help contribute to the web site funds required.

These two auctions are both pigeon basic auctions and are both contributing towards the improvment and upgrade and promotion of pigeon basics.

NO date set as of yet for funds auction , january auction from 1st - 15th january also sellers will be making donations from sales made here this will also attract many new visitors hopefully

When will the auction take place?

yes, i agree with the above, i have offered to donate birds for auction as i use the site to sell birds. i said to the webmaster about doing a web auction for funds. i have also donated to other auctions such as pipa asia auction which made £***,**''sss for appeal (not just my bird but lots from top fanciers. regards

[face=Courier]Happy New year from Janssen De Klak Pigeons[/face] I would like to introduce a new website forum, please note this is not to replace pigeon basics, it is mainly for Janssen De Klak topics regarding Janssen or De Klak pigeons etc it also makes it easier for people who are looking to buy and sell just jannsen de klak racing pigeons. http://www.klakpigeons.co.uk/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl http://www.klakpigeons.co.uk/ Email: [mail]info@klakpigeons.co.uk[/mail] Regards Janssen De Klak Admin

hi, i brought 3 c&g koopman birds fro louellas old lines i sold some ybs from them and the ybs won 7*1st club 3*1st fed and also winning 1st fed for 1 person, 2nd for another 20 min ahead

Just to let every one know Louella pigeon world have not launched a new website its very good web address: http://www.louella.co.uk/

hi, does any one know how i could ship birds to taiwan?

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