a couple of years back at wetherby the almond valley liberated alonside the pentland and had a great race before we went i went over to the breakaway east of scotland motor and said get up with us the more the merrier his respose was we cant liberate with you we are in the rpra i pointed to his motor and said them in there dont know what you are talking about i think at that point it was the saddest thing i had heard and summed up modern day racing