Tenny

KITH WAS 4TH+5TH TOO ALAN. RV SEEMED TO HAVE AGOOD RACE

where u race dick??

I would expect WA stands for the region IE (Warsaw)

http://www.welshnational.piczo.com Wayne take a look at the similar thread below, it gives list of arrivals from the site above cheers Tenny

Same names as usual. Preece bros 2 from 2 Lance Boswell I believe sent one and its home. durham & george 17.09.20 north/sec m mayo 17.41 centre/sec m bevan 17.46.26 north/sec fishlock bros 18.03.45 south/sec lovell bros 17.21 centre/sec i davies 17.36 centre/sec l boswell 18.37 centre /sec preece br &son 18.33. north/sec (sent 2 got 2 ) preece br &son 18.43. north/sec c howells & son 17.34..00 south/sec 2nd arrival 19 34 hackland & son 19.08.31 centre/sec durham & george 18.39 north/sec a keevil 20.10.49 south/sec Above copied from the Website which has been a credit with regular and quick results all year. Well Done Tom

Bird found - Anyone able to advise who the owner is.?

Very quiet m8. Wnr BIRDS up at 11.15 ,seemed to be tough race for most. some people send when not fully trained and hope 4 best. i watched local flyer who I believe was 1st time in 13.06...he had had 9/16 at 6pm

ANY NEWS ON WNR S/EAST BIRDS TODAY FROM SWINDON? DID HULLAVINGTON BIRDS GO ?(WSR FED)

was this a national pigeon ?

hielbronn birds held over again ..looking like monday lib

plenty of short tosses needed in the valley where i live. then once out of the valley go 10,15,20miles in jumps of 5 miles.

any birds up around wales today?

Perhaps rings could be programmed so that they cant be re-used unless its by the same fancier.

We own 3. national winners and 37 Federation winners

albear I Sat pure and statistics...didnt like the mechanics

I belive that the Europa team considered going accross the water recently. Main objective was the lack of flexibility of race day as its awkward booking and rescheduling the ferry for the BIG RACE.

well use it then, as you have a strike rate wich is a differant thing for percentages, all comeing to your lofts agenst 2,000 birds differant - different comeing - coming agenst - against and it was 220+ birds not 2,000. he had about 10% of the entry- he had 50% of the birds that homed on the day. statistically if 14 made it home from 220 then on average that is 1.5 birds home per 24. in other words for every 24 birds that entered 1.5 made it home on the day. however derek had 7 day birds thats nearly 5 times the average. I hope this is made simple enough for BIGDA to understand if not log onto www.mathsforkids.com.

Chris I sat o'level maths 2 years early at 14yrs of age and had a "A" Grade I then went on to get my A'Level at 17

The 1st bird was bred by a local retired man in Cardiff. The 2nd bird was bred by Bob Fenech and he decided not to pay the entry fee as it was a so called sprinter and Bob thought it would be to long for him. Paul Smith(Regency lofts) activated the bird .

ha ahaha hah ah a, not very good at maths are you.... Do me aa favour and except my figures as accurate. I Have a national mathemtics diploma and A'Level maths

??????????????/ he sent 10% of the entrants and had 50% of the day returns thats 5 times the average and is 1st and 3rd nation beating the guy thay had won the last 2 nationals. incidently the bird that was 2nd national was the winner from crieff!

All loopholes paul where covered in the weeks leading up to the nationals. all birds where transfered and registered to DEREK and are 100% eligible to win the national. The 1st and 3rd birds where WHU birds by the way.

Thanks Whitenight. 13 home from 24 now by 1.30pm today. There was marking stations that only had 1 or 2 home. many top flyers still waiting for their 1st arrival. tremendous acheivement with yearlings and 2 yr olds that had not flown in 2008.

24 0f the europa pigeons where entered with over 200 birds into the WELSH GRAND NATIONAL . The Europa entries contibuted to 10% of the entries. 14 birds made it home in the "WELSH GRAND NATIONAL " and 7 of these where from the Europa one loft! Its not difficult to understand BIGDA. but then again making things sound corrupt is more fun for the ill informed and ignorant eh?

I just pipped you again by 1 place. Told you i'd beat you.. ha ha. Well done . see you at next race probably