E4fed

cracking looking birds from a good distance gene pool. To answer the doubters on this forum - you can sell someone good bloodlines but that will not make them top flyers if they cant fly what they have competitively?

yes £15, the keyboard on my computer is not configured properly so no access to £ sign!!!!!

that should have read "they are relatively untested as you would get from buying direct from any of the top studs" Elfed

you will see the House of Aarden are 2010 ybs and that i stopped racing in 2011 and gifted the team of ybs that were trained and given 2 fed races to a friend. As broken in birds this year they have held their own for him, he is not a very competive flyer. If they were breeding winners galore they would not be for sale for 125 a pair would they?? But they are not crap either?? They are relatively intested as you world get by buting from a stud??

Distance Grizzles for sale as I reduce my numbers down to 24 birds in total: These birds all decend from a Son of Jan Polders Black Magic Woman, a Jos Thone Grizzle hen (Poco Valencia bloodlines) from John Searle and gdtrs of Invincible Spirit. 3 2011 Grizzle Cocks (1st Generation my breeding) These 3 cocks were well trained in a club transporter out to 50 miles then got 2 Fed races as yb’s in 2011, 2011 is when I last raced. Sire is a direct Jan Polder and a Son of Black Magic Woman Dam is from John Searle Poco Valencia bloodlines These cocks are images of each other and clearly show their Jos Thone Grizzle heritage?? I still have 5 the same way bred in my loft as part of my team, I just need make some hard decisions to cut down to the numbers stated. 40 sterling each plus carriage – gsons of BMW will cost you 200 mark from breeders and these ones have raced?? 2 2012 Grizzle Cocks (2nd Generation my breeding) Bred from the cocks above and/or their brothers crossed with my Invincible Spirit lines. Stock only. 20 sterling each plus carriage 4 2013 Grizzle Cocks (2nd Generation my breeding) Same way bred as above 2 2012 cocks but later bred, hatched August this year. Stock only, these will be mature enough for breeding come March. They are not through the moult yet and these birds, like most, don’t look at their best until through the first moult. 15 sterling each plus carriage These birds tend to be white ish grizzles until they moult then they turn more Grey or Slate Grey Grizzles, typical Thone Grizzles.

Will take 125 per pair, this is my absolute lowest I will keep them rather than take less. I REALLY RECOMMEND THESE BIRDS - please note this is not me off loading failed breeders. I am genuinely reducing birds down to 24 in total to make management easier for me Elfed

DECIDED TO KEEP THIS PAIR

Both Lots (8 birds) SOLD to Wes

Hello Wes PM me and i will give you my tel number to discuss, they are yours provided you contact me within 24 hrs. Elfed

Thanks Andy, for a number of reasons I need get down to ideally 24 birds thats why I have dropped the price. The birds are as stated and as you said are of well tested bloodlines and with 6 of the 8 having raced. Thanks again Elfed

Will accept 150 sterling plus carriage per pair for quick sale

Will accept 100 sterling plus carriage per lot of 2 pairs for quick sale

I purchased this pair and a son of Nadal from Jan at the backend of 2010, the son of BMW offered was a later bred. I only bred 2 rounds from him in 2011 (1 round floated), but paired him with a Jos Thone grizzle hen - 2 reasons for pairing him with the Thone hen - I wanted a team of grizzles based on the Polders and the hen Jan picked for him being more mature paired with another cock. In 2012 I left him with the Thone hen and paired the hen of the pair offered to his son when crossed with the grizzle hen. And thats how breeding as progressed, as I said I wanted a family of distance Grizzles so I have kept most of the direct Grizzles bred for myself. A few that I have gifted to friends to test have flown well but as yet the oldest of those gifted are only yearlings, you would not expect much from them until later in life? Current breeding is the R O Jones cock mentioned in my other Ads is paired with the Thone hen and the son of Nadal with a gdtr of the son of BMW x Thone hen. I mention this to show that the reason for breeding as i have is me genuinely putting together a 'family' of grizzles. Note I stopped racing in 2011 for a number of reasons. Elfed

Would probably split into 2 lots of 2 pairs per lot at 150 sterling plus carriage as i suppose not many fanciers want to take in 4 pair in one go ? I select pairs, not that there is much to select between them.

Photo's of the pairs offered

a couple of photo's of the birds offered

I am not the best photographer but here are 2, I can email higher resolution if needed

R O Jones of South Wales bloodlines Four pair of birds to start a distance team. I have tried to describe what I personally think of the bloodlines that run through these birds without writing bullshitting advertising spiel. You form an opinion ? 4 pair of Jan Aarden’s for sale as a ‘Lot’: The 4 cocks are all brothers and were trained and raced upto the east coast as yb’s and yearlings, I have not raced since. The 4 Cocks are bred from a Cock which must represent the best of R O Jones of S Wales bloodlines and a dbl gdtr of Invincible Spirit. The sire of the 4 cocks (Jones’y) is a gson of the Master and the No-Ring hen, Roberts Number One Pair. The pedigree of ‘Jones’y’ is just saturated with winning distance birds; I will supply a copy of the pedigree of Jones’y. The hens to go with these cocks: 1. Dk Chq w/f bred from Jones’y (see above) x Dk Chq w/f (bred from dtr of Inv Spirit x ½ sister Invincible Dettori) – I have pedigree. 2. Bl Chq w/f bred from my House of Aarden birds (see other Ad) Sire Chq w/f GB10N 17640 Dam Bl Pd GB10N17712 – I have pedigree’s at the moment. 3. Chq hen bred from a full brother to Miss Wilson (Tumley Lofts) x dbl gdtr Invincible Spirit (sold to a member on this site, so no pedigree available now). This hen has raced over the water into s wales. 4. Chq hen bred from a full brother to Miss Wilson (Tumley Lofts, sold to a member on this site, so no pedigree available now) x dbl gdtr Invincible Spirit (sold to a member on this site, so no pedigree available now).. This hen has raced over the water into s wales. The above is all the pedigree info that will be supplied so I offer these for 300 sterling plus carriage as a lot. This must be an absolute bargain? Again these birds are for sale as I am concentrating on breeding a family of grizzles based on Jan Aarden bloodlines, the blood of these birds saturate my loft.

Birds upon which i have based the breeding of a family of primarily Aarden based Grizzles Pair 1 Cock: Grizlle Pd Sire - gson Black Magic Woman (bred from son BMW x Jose Thone Grizzle hen) Dam - my Invincible Spirit lines (I owned dbl gdtr’s of Inv Spirit) Hen: bred by House of Aarden Bl Chq Pd GB10N 17676 Sire – Magic Man direct Jan Polder and a son of Black Magic Woman Dam – Sister Magic direct Jan Polder and half sister to Black Magic Woman Pair 2 Cock: bred by House of Aarden Bl Chq w/f GB10N 17640 Sire – Husky Boy direct Jan Polder Dam – Sister Victoria direct Jan Polder Hen: Black Grizzle Sire – son of Black Magic Woman direct Jan Polder Dam – Jose Thone grizzle (Las Vegas and Poco Valencia bloodlines) Pair 3 Cock: Slate Grizzle Sire – son of Black Magic Woman direct Jan Polder Dam – Jose Thone grizzle (Las Vegas and Poco Valencia bloodlines) Hen: bred by House of Aarden Bl Pd GB10N 17712 Sire – The Senator a son of Victoria direct Jan Polder Dam – dtr of The President x Sister Victoria direct Jan Polder PRICE - 200 sterling per pair plus carriage These birds are for sale as I am concentrating on breeding a family of grizzles based on Jan Aarden bloodlines, the blood of these birds saturate my loft.

Direct Jan Polder Jan Aardens: A pair that Jan matched for me direct from his Black Magic Woman bloodlines: Cock Dk Chq (nice eye on this bird, commented on by Jan himself) NL 10-1644826 M Sire – Son Nadal NL 09-1146267 M (gsire Nadal, gdam Dochter Broken Wing) Dam – Black Magic Woman Hen Dk Chq (Velvet) NL 09-1145075 Sire – Son Zwarte Woulters NL 06-1023002 M (half brother to Black Magic Woman) Dam – Gdtr Victoria NL 08-1496353 V Original Pedigree’s supplied 650 sterling for the matched pair, plus carriage.

You are probably right Alan, but this is a genuine sale of some good birds which i have now bred what i need from them.

I have not raced for 2 years and do not see me racing in the near future if ever again. My racers were gifted to friends at the beginning of the winter of 2011 and I kept 36 birds including my stock and best bred birds to breed a family (in loose terms) of grizzles based on my Jan Aardens [Jan Polders direct, Invincible Spirit/Detori and ROJones of Resolven South Wales] and using a Jos Thone Grizlle hen for the grizzle gene. Anyway I now have a few generations of grizzles and its time to take out the non grizzles that I have crossed with the grizzles to get a big gene pool............ I have for sale 4 pairs that are well enough bred to be used to start a family of Jan Aardens for £300 as a lot (I will NOT split them) The 4 cocks are all brothers and bred from my R O Jones cock (Robert is a friend and picked this cock out for me) and the Dam is a double grandaughter of Invincible spirit. These 4 cocks were raced as yb and ylgs through to the coast on the south east route from s wales approx 200 miles. The 4 hens to go with them: 2 hens bred from Sire a full brother to Miss Wilson [Tumley Lofts] and Dam is the Double Grandaughter of Invincible Spirit as above. These hens raced as 2 yr olds across the channel on the south east route. 1 hen is bred from Sire The R O Jones cock above the Dam is bred from a gson of Inv Spirit and half sister of Inv Dettori. This hen not raced. 1 hen is bred from my Jan Polders from House of Aarden Sire son of Husky Boy x Sister Victoria, Dam dtr of the Senator and gdtr of the President. This hen not raced. These birds will be available in May when they have finished breeding a round of yb for me. From the yb they breed for me, as they are crossed with my grizzles, I will keep any youngg grizzles and have donated the non grizzles to a local BB. £300 for 4 pairs of well bred and 6 of them having been on the road is a steal ?

Both birds now sold

Had a few questions regarding pedigrees, further info: The Aardens Chq Pied Cock full brother to Tumley Lofts Miss Wilson - see tumley lofts web site for pedigree of Miss Wilson, a call to James will confirm I purchased this cock from him. Chq Hen GB 04 Z 88343 dbl grand daughter Invincible Spirit - pedigree lost but an email to Louella will confirm she is a dbl gdtr The Roland Janssens The Sire and Dam of the Red Pied Cock and White hen I listed on this forum on the 4th Jan for sale so pedigree and pictures available on that add. I have pedigree for the Red Pied hen (she is a grand daughter of diamond white) the pedigree for the white cock is lost but he has bred some good yb including the 09 Breeder Buyer winner. The Red Jan Aarden Sire of the red grizzles is a son of a dtr of Red Barcelona and 645 from Tumley Lofts. The Dam is a white hen which is a dtr of the White cock above crossed with a Janssen from Tumley Lofts and is a full sister to the 09 Breeder Buyer winner

Had a few questions regarding pedigrees - further info: The Aardens Chq Pied Cock full brother to Tumley Lofts Miss Wilson - see tumley lofts web site for pedigree of Miss Wilson, a call to James will confirm I purchased this cock from him. Chq Hen GB 04 Z 88343 dbl grand daughter Invincible Spirit - pedigree lost but an email to Louella will confirm she is a dbl gdtr The Roland Janssens The Sire and Dam of the Red Pied Cock and White hen I listed on this forum on the 4th Jan for sale so pedigree and pictures available on that add. I have pedigree for the Red Pied hen (she is a grand daughter of diamond white) the pedigree for the white cock is lost but he has bred some good yb including the 09 Breeder Buyer winner. The Red Jan Aarden Sire of the red grizzles is a son of a dtr of Red Barcelona and 645 from Tumley Lofts. The Dam is a white hen which is a dtr of the White cock above crossed with a Janssen from Tumley Lofts and is a full sister to the 09 Breeder Buyer winner