danny boy, thats up to the delegates to tell their members, thats why they're in these jobs. Danny for example we do use 1 big transporter like lanarkshire, think how much that would cost running an hgv the full length of the country to pick up the birds or are you wanting to go back to the black old days of 4/5 years ago??? so i think we would be better sticking to our 3 wee transporters