ive been looking through a few sites and had plenty great comments of encouragement. I have decided it would be best to get started this year and the loft is underway. Back hols in first week of august and will look to get some young birds then, hopefully reds, whites, grizzles etc a nice mix with a max of about 10 to start with. I was looking at the Louela site, my god the prices for older birds are amazing even though heavily reduced still very expensive, i never realised the cost of these birds, thankfully i will stick to the youngsters. Who knows what the future will hold though.