Fortunately I have never had a bird return to the loft with its life ring removed, however I have had ETS rings removedhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/angry.gif I believe this will continue until we have an option to have life rings with a permanent chip fixed into it, this however will not stop those idiots who remove life rings from birdshttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif