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Have to agree with Duncan's above post. Louella has undoubtedly stood the test of time, and there ARE many very sucessful lofts set up with their birds. Even International, besides National winners. Other than that, the best policy is have a repore with the seller... if you hit it off, and feel you can trust and get along etc. go for it. latebreds of course are the best to have, if one is willing to bred first year and race youngsters, and then the parents year after. These are normally of the Race team and have at least proven to have been able to home. Of course a few light tosses helps, and a couple of 100 milers or so races first year.

But you know by far the best way is Hand feed on cleaned floors. They peck as quick as it is laid down. As soon as on flies up to the perch, no more down. This also keeps loft maintaince down to a regular minium, get a good bonding with the birds. One on one great managerment. Trouble is for most, TIME.

Sorted. Sold the hen and done a runner lol ;D ;D

When feeding through the moult what do the birds draw on for feather production, what can we add to help tip top feather............? Flax / Linseed. A little before their main feed each day. A natural oil and a laxative. Both essential this time of the year. vinegar and garlic ... Garlic is a good proventive... like a pencillan in reverse lol. Viniger, well the juries out on that. Many, and I'm one that believes it has become a myth of imaginations. Often in this game, Things, either deliberately or want of a better word 'Follow the pack' get ctedi undeserve, and much the pigeon does INSPITE of. Best scenario would be to feed Chopped grass and green algae water / Plankton. Look at the beast thriving on grass, and the Blue wale etc. . but of course their systems are built for those feeds, Pigeos aren't.

Harky I know that, like most others on site do... I, personally feeI, that we don't want any and everything, everytime, being a 'Good cause time'. This is where I feel a line is to be drawn. And leave the closing till Monday as stated. Gordon Bennet you can't keep moving goal post to suit every bodies personal whim!

As for 'Donation' no pressure, let alone even discussion or POINNT should be entered into... that is a personal matter and best left to the person(s) who receive any winnings. In fact it's a cheap shot that saddens the 'Spirit which is intended'. Soon no one will bother ever putting a few bob up if after winning a little they are pressured to 'Give it AWAY'! Yes it is a blumming cheek, and has no bearing. And forget the 'Good Cause' scenario, there are thousands upon thousands worthwhile and good causes! Each and everyone must be allowed to choose when and where and what cause(s) they wish to support! But for gaul sake, lets for once be able to participate in a little enjoyment, regardless has trivial to some, with out the added burden to take away any little pleasure one derives!

Once agreed, useless and NOT right to change anything. Hence closing time is Monday etc. as said. Once said it is, or should be, so written. Remember a simple realist basic truth. When anything is put up, or promoted, people join on the terms as first agreed! Can't and should change the goal posta after. Why??? Well only one answer to WHY!!and that is BECAUSE, and in this case other many have joins, and some who have joined up wouldn't have done. Simple really, and no lee way for clever thoughts with hind sight! That can be 'Lessons learnt' for sure can only be for the next one!

What for sulking! ;D ;D

I'll go along with that.... whatever is the same alround for everyone. Yes I agree with Ted, it did, does add a little excite for anoher channel. Perhaps the P.c. reeing about was an unfortunate down side, but then again id didn't subtract from the overall project. So am happy with my lot.

Forget what they are off... just ask for the PERFORMANCE they may, or may not have done!

That is / are cool. I feel better than the usual Del barred ones loke I use.

Yeah, come on... anywhere bar near the Top lol ;D ;D

Well we have three, and more, trying to please. Now that has to be a good thing! Good for us also that three - or more, are active on here, that has to be a bonus too.

Email me if you want to see the photo's of the wreckage. :-/ :B :B

And here.

Way to go. Good luck!

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Yep get Carbon, twin, easier to use... for cutting, best use a jig saw with a FINE METAL blade. I swear by it, like everyone else I know who has used it.

'Oh how it hurts, deep inside, when ...... should I tell' lol ;D

It is great - at the moment at least - with services being tightly contested. Yes Amtrack did have problems which of course goes without saying, as these others will also no doubt. But '... it is a ill wind that blows no good' and I can't help but feel these new serices with have heard and listen and learnt from Amtracks mistakes and have their stolls set out proper and accordingly. Like I say, 'A fool learns by his own mistakes ... A wise man by others'! Lets hope so. P.s. Duncan, not sure who's shares i wish to invest in yet lol ;D ;D

As to 'Location' it is a simple fact that the wind on day has a major bearing. As for Feds / Sections / nationals etc. it is simple to just look at the positions on any given race day - and the Wind direction. Yes we, like most, have a predominately West / west in the wind. Most can tell you where the wining section etc. will be before the liberation, unless of course there is a radical difference in the morning. Why so many have moved to their location. Or would one have us believe that certain areas have a canny undoubted nature of producing winners! Suppose it could be in the water : P; D Simplify over stated. Birds liberated at Thurso in a North West Wind. One flyer is in Lowerstoft, another in Holyhead, What odds are available? Indeed which one won't you be able to have a bet on? To say, refer otherwise is ludicrous. Indeed another simple reason why nationals have so few sent in reality. Section bespoke for area. Arguments that more send in that area … well of course they do, they have a chance of at least a merit with a decent section, if not better! This is further obvious, because no one, who hasn’t a decent chance of a decent section bird at least, will not bother sending! They are and will be also runs, and their’ money wasted would be better spent on feed, Training etc. etc. I mean does anyone want to fly against - like in our NFC - fanciers a 100 - 150 miles to their East? :-/ :-/ . Answer they don't! Another reason why Nationals are regarded as a waste of time regards merit, and further I'm afraid will soon laughable. It is only for most even now, that one realistically fly’s for a decent meriteous place in section... those able to. 7, yes just 7, in three counties now fly with the NRCC! So even now as they reverse their selfish, and ludicrous decision to have us fly against the Likes of Norwich / Kings Lynn, etc. etc. the damages is already done. And why was it done in the first place? For two reasons, One because sadly they could, and two, so muggings could bolster their coffers... no ego's as there is no taste in beating nothing!

Saw a short spell back someone enquiering regards Colours etc. Been sleep and jolted me mind, and thought this site might havebeen / is of use. Some loverly strange coloured ones I feel. http://www.angelfire.com/ga/huntleyloft/mosaics.html

Oh so very true, so very factual, bet you won't be toast of the ball now though... like Chris nearly puts on his posts.... You won't get into trouble for fibbing ... Ah now tell the truth may well ... ;D

Oh very true Duncan... Pyst. don't tell the rest of the Scots, but we never wanted your freedom lol ;D ;D ;D

And a great SPORTSMAN, like the other Scottish Olypians that won well... surprise you only mentioned Chris Hoy ... :-/ :-/ :B