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well once we stop buying birds from abroad and stop buying there pigeons , and raced more on a club bases inland and more national based at the channel then there would be more worthy results and if you wanted to specialise at a certain channel point / distance you wouldnt just get one atempt or two attemps a season then we would vastly improve our birds to the level on the continent , as for write ups on people most are done for friends and not the winning top lofts most of the time , and this is mainly done out of jelousy of there winning abilitys and stockmanship i have noticed only one British Fancier on the PIPA.BE site , this is obviously not a true reflection of the fancy in the UK perhaps this is where we are going wrong , we should be starting to refer to birds in our lofts as our own familys as they do abroad with reference to there original strain , as once they left the loft of origin they have also lost there stocksmanship and wont be breeding to what they would of paired them too . Then we will see pigeons for what they truely are , good or bad , on the continent they dont own one strain or two strains they just buy the pigeons from the champions or as close as they can afford , look at Busheart he bought birds from all the champions a vast gene pool and as such probably the second best strain of heinz 57 to hit the Uk , number 1 would be in my opinion would be Jansens but no pure strain just 2 that complemented each other the wegge and the gits and later added from the likes of Fabry ectra , so forget the strains and buy the best you can afford the more diverse the gene pool the more chances of producing the champions of tomorrow , and if truth be known i think we have the best birds in the world improve the structure of racing and we will reap the benifits of the markets of tomorrow

lovely post

im sure if they wanted to breed these birds im 100% sure they would get sponsers from a good percentage of pigeon fanciers to breed

link dont work Duncan

and if hawk gets one or two on way home thats just nature ;D ;D ;D ;D

jts welcome to the site , we look forward to your posts enjoy the site

and could take them training with you

bilan welcome to the site , we look forward to your posts enjoy the site

could have some diclofenic fed white doves

are pigeons alergic thats what i would want to know firstly

http://www.chevita.com/en/pigeons/symptoms/index.php

Tournier is where the grizzles come from

well i think these birds offer value for money , and if you have the room why not i bets theres some top distance birds hid away in that lot

i had neighbour trouble she moved out recently must of been the nice letter i had sent ;D ;D ;D ;D

well done persistance is the key and dont feed them at old loft they son know where there better off

Welcome to Pigeon Basics bird man of meath , i hope you enjoy the site

there slow at updating site , if you ring up they have you on phone and can hit you with there sales pitch

buy her a scrapper spray it white and when she gets beter at it spray a new colour will keep her intrested and her goal is to get a golden scrapper ;D ;D ;D ;D

one i had was a hen nice but small to medium in size the cocks tend to be bigger

two fanciers one at st neots and one at Ramsgate flew these sheer elegance Jansens , they were brothers with surname Stone they used to top club near on everyweek and both kept same birds hope this helps nice bird tho

i did the snowman last week lol forgot to write the suicide note for him tho , if you want a few buckets you have send the buckets up ( tight yorkshireman ?) ill send them full if snow melts i'll fill with water you wont no the difference you can pay the carrage ;D ;D ;D ;D

Well it started snowing again early hours of this morning must be over two Inch already at Scarborough

If indeed these birds were a risk no vet would issue a bill of health to ship them that im certain they wouldnt put there livelyhood on the line for a few signed documents , if the goverment thought they were a problem they would of all been culled not given the all clear to race , and they wouldnt leave where they are now

happy birthday hope its been a good un

well done Alf just hope he dont weight them in during credit crunch scrap metals at a premium hope he had transport to take them all home , the wife might doc his pocket money to help clean them all