OLDYELLOW

aye all inclusive think they'll be bust shortly ;D ;D ;D :D

;D ;D 8) 8) 8) 8)

yup join R.P.R.A as a member and pay your union fees and get rings at same time

good to be back

intresting statement because i find that most fanciers favour a certain race point because they never seem not to hit it , and i put this down to type of birds that they select so if same size ectra there usualy of similar abilitys with the odd randomisation i prefer medium to small birds as big birds need more work and are harder to keep fit

i agree that all winners come in all shapes and sizes and same again varibles in weather conditions and wind and distance to add to the mix , indeed one of my birds from the past was always front heavy before winning hardly a ballanced bird when he was at his best but when at home end totaly ballanced

im agreeing with you it takes alsorts of factors to building a pigeon , but i would say because nature is more random than most would like to think , we are trying to breed for speed or endurance , but nature is breeding for survival so nature determines that each bird need a great constitution in order to survive get that right then your halfway there , then you need good management and a good system then your away

try viagra ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

pairing full brother full sister together can be ok and produce winners some may be breeders of winners , however there also can be deformaties like webbed feet ectra and spade legs , the more closely inbred they are the more likely chance they are of been unviable as simply wont hatch or dont survive or have these physical trates due to the lack of good genes or overload of faulty mutated genes

well lets also take a tomatoe bush each fruit although from the same tree can taste different some more watery some prone to infections some sweeter some bitter but same bush produced them all so alot of factors go in to the gene pool its getting the right ones together , so adding more tomotoe genes to the gene pool can still produce a variety of tastes / blends as did there parents

a baby boy cant kick a ball when born ? he cant even crawl or stand new born his genes hes been given by his parents determine that in nature there is no room for derormaty so weak / disabled birds get naturaly suppressed , but nature is a battle of survival , lets take a good footballer great fitness ectra but there just as likely to have a disabled child i can think of this senario without adding names , so your saying were all born to kick a man made object ? i suppose we all could actualy kick it but to control it and be able to be in good control takes skills which are learned , so we could take 2 boys in a race for instance one with head lice one with none who would win the race ? it wouldnt be a factor in the boy winning having head lice but it would be down to determination and applying themself into doing what they want to do , even if both applied themselves one would expect a result of a win or a draw or outright win , look at this dancing on ice non ice skaters as not intrested give them some tv time and money , there good skaters some could be proffesional

lol ;D ;D ;D ;D think tnhe first wife causing me hastle but sorted now

the good footballers utilised and learned there skills give a football to several animals in a zoo some will play with it say a seal / dolphin and can be trained to shoot hoops , but they werent born with these skill but taught them a lion would punture and rip his ball but that already set in his nature , i see a pigeons gene pool like this imagine each bird like a bowl of soup they all have different tastes some bitter some sweet some tart some zesty some salty , right all these different blends of soup ( genes ) can produce winners but its getting the ballance right in your blends or you get more breeder if family too inbred then you need a cross but finding pigeons that compliment the existing birds

just as the bird dint have a marvelous pedigree doesnt make it a bad pigeon , just because the flyer hadnt won a race also doesnt make his birds bad im sure most buy from winners in order to breed winners im sure if shown the way he could easily win , no doubt he has good birds but not the management or system that suits them but then again he may get his pleasure from been with them and homing rather than racing

just because the parents had no intrest in soccer doesnt mean they were bad footballers , it's just they dint wish to utilise or gain skills in that area but a valid point just because two champion pigeons are paired together they can easily breed as many doughnuts as there like

courier list click link below http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1219929388/

i tried that said how about a Belgian chocolate trip best chocolate in the world but i hate both kinds of chocolates ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D , then she realised id spend more money the she does fer a change lol :D :D , ill stick to Blighty fer birds the best birds are already here look at recent how many of the big names have virtualy sold there shirts off there backs and bought there own birds back from British fanciers cheers strapper and Alan

well done jakjak hope they do you proud chrisss look nice birds and nice offering Peter j some ybs

oops been advised to keep number so wont be off till i get it changed no rock im afraid have to keep the baggage light but i had piella in Calella and a few cocktails ill put my first prize award fer winning the cocktail party game thats if she dint leave it ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 8) nice to be back and amongst the birds tho shame yas cant get a loft at the hotel your at and do hotel pigeon racing , now theres a thought ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D

well im back from holiday had a great time , im having to change my phone number so maybe offline till its sorted

could be a number of things had alot of problems myself , mainly with birds fighting going to wrong boxes especialy with the yearlings

Billy Wilson should / may know him ;-)

well as kirky had keys couldnt lol so rang him up 1st toilet then emptied car right need some shopping bbl but was first thing i wanted to do and kirkys done a cracking job , so cheers again mate

aye home emptied car and drunk two real cup of teas

nice view , and even better to see you brown again Fifer