jimmy white

i used to do it the same as you robbo found excactly the same as you, but as long as there was plenty room , they usually settled no bother

ive had ybs struggle home filthy, dirty , looking more like street birds, some of these have turned out to be fantastic pigeons,,,,i had one once lost as a yb ,returned two weeks b4 first ob race the following season [it was a white flighted pigeon but you couldnt tell that ,at the time ;D] this pigeon finished up a great pigeon and won quite a few firsts and other prizes] so i would never blame a yb ,,,only problem is,,, if theve been in a loft,, they will drop back at that loft, if theve been living" wild", differance story :)

this seems to be turning out a very difficult race indeed with very few birds back , their still waiting now,,1.30 here should be roughly 8,30 there now , linda looks to have the best returns but lets also think about the others some with very poor returns indeed so lets hope theres a few drop for all b4 nightfall in oregan

;D ;D ;D think your going to find a big que at your door speedbird [all decorators,,,,, ;D ;D ;D but no decorating done ;D ;D]

certainly some performances,, very well done indeed

come away sgt white of the not so barmy army ;D ;D ;D

;D ;D ;D just had news linda , redrose lofts has hada drop of 7 pigeons ,,,lot 41 is among them ,fair excited ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

ive had stock birds in for a few years partly because of the rules and regulations where i stay, and recently said ,to pot with it im letting them out as i hated keeping them in, i now see a differnce in thes birds , ie condition contentment etc, but can really understand your problem , its really a lot of work cut out for you ,,and difficult to put priority to the birds that are not racing , but really think it would pay dividends if you could manage them out , if not every day, as many times that are possible , i see your also racing natural birds , would it not be possible to exercise your naturals on their own and after theve had their fly let the stockbirds out with these after a while you may even get another fly from the birds as the stock birds get fitter, but i do realize how hard it is to fit all this in ,,,but theres no doubt about it the stockbirds will keep better, breed better ybs , if you can get them out to let them for a little fly pick some natural minerals etc, but very hard work so wish you well :)

yes , a big welcome blondie, im sure youll find all the info you need , on this forum

maybe worth a look at hawk topic on racing pigeons post i,e songbird survival group www.songbird-survival.org.uk

yes ,,seen mr perigrine today,, birds all turning there heads to the side then they all took off, these birds went as high as ive seen in a while in the lovely blue sky, but luckily for me he had his mind on something else further on and passed over, but the birds took a while to land and were very jumpy, so i got them in at that point.

oooooh dont remind me, after that lovely day weve had today ;D ;D ;D

as far as pigeons smelling , i think they do as you can smell an unhealthy bird,loft etc and the same goes for a healthy pigeon, loft etc, but as far as a pigeons sense of smell [allthough differance to ours] actually plays a role in their homing instinct,, any thoughts?/

;D ;D ;D ;D very true ;D

this side of the forth in the lothians blue sky with slight high cloud, and would say the wind is turning from the east more to the south now

:) brilliant photo,, that veiw in yor photo must be about about 20 miles ,dont think folk will realize that :)

;D ;D ;D do pigeons smell??? ;D ;D ;D

i will be at the computer then ,, waiting on the good news,,,live ;D ;D ;D

:)will be waiting , with eager anticipation,,,AND with my fingers and legs crossed ;D ;D,,, best of luck linda

belated ;D happy birthday, joe ;D just ask for double time as it was your birthday ;D ;D ;D

YES ,,WESTY,, VERY NICE OLD GENTLEMAN ,, HAD A GOOD CHAT ON THE PHONE , I REREASED THE BIRD AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GLASGOW RD, IN EDINBURGH , BIRD RETURNED HOME TO GLASGOW SO A HAPPY ENDING :)

MY OPINION SPEEDY WOULD BE TO GO TO THE BEST DISTANCE FANCIER IN YOUR LOCALITY , AND TRY AND AQUIRE BIRDS FROM HIM OR HER, BUT WOULD ALSO TAKE CAREFULL NOTES OF THEIR METHODS , I KNOW YOUR VERY KEEN ON THE BIRDS [FEATHERED I MEAN ;D ;D] AND AM QUITE SURE YOU WILL SUCCEED :) AND WISH YOU ALL THE BEST

:) GOOD ON YA :)

MY OPINION ,, THATS THE WAY FORWARD , NOTHING WRONG WITH A GOOD DEBATE, AND A GOOD DISSCUSION, AS LONG AS ITS CONSTRUCTIVE,,HOPE ALL GOES WELL AND NO SIZE 10 SHOVELS [ IVE A WEE GAIRDEN TROWEL YOU CAN BORROW ;D ;D ;D]

WELCOME GAZ,, DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT MILERS, BUT REMEMBER BEING IN LIVERPOOL AT DOVECOTE PARK WHEN I WAS ABOUT 10 [JUST A FEW YEARS AGO ;D] AND WATCHED THIS GUY TRAINING HIS MILERS, I USED TO MEET HIM THERE EVERYDAY SOMETIMES 3 TIMES A DAY, AND JUST TO WATCH THESE BIRDS WERE AMAZING , THEY MADE A BEE LINE 3 FT ABOVE THE GROUND [NO CIRCLING] THROUGH THE TREES IN THE PARK , OVER THE MAIN ROAD, JUST MISSING THE CARS THEN SKIMMED OVER THE ROOF TOP , AND THAT WAS THEM AWAY , I REMEMBER THEY WERE SMALL STREET LIKE BIRDS , WHEN AT THAT TIME IN SCOT. IT WAS ALL BIG BLOOD REDS AND MEALLIES WITH GREAT BIG WATTLES AND REMEMBER AT THAT TIME AS A LAD, NEVER SEEING BIRDS LIKE THEM B4, BUT BY GOLLY THEY SHIFTED