Think you have lost the thread Walter nobody mentioned anything about training y/birds f all to do with you how I train my y/bs certainly would not come to you for advise on how to train or Liberate y/bs, tell you one thing the driver won't have to chase my birds out of the transporter as has happened in previous weeks. When I put my birds on the transporter they are under the care of the fed and I expect the fed to care and respect these amazing creatures and not liberate them when the weather or the forecast is not fit for racing. What is happening now is the birds welfare is first and foremost, not the must have a race brigade. The race controller will decide when they go and when they will be liberated not Walter Masson or Dooheed unless one of you feels like taking on what is clearly a very demanding job. The majority of fed members I have spoken have confidence in his ability to control racing and what he is trying to achieve, if you have something constructive to say that will help alleviate the problems we are having with racing pigeons then think it is best to keep you mouth shut.