Hi Walter, Don't really like getting involved on here about Fed stuff and probably shouldn't but feel I have to correct you a wee bit, wheels were already in motion to arrange collection of your birds before your first post, I had been phoning round secretaries this evening to confirm times and arrangements for the Ripon race, when I didn't get through to Andy, I gave George D a call, he told me about your situation so I spoke to our Fed President and he asked me to arrange the hire of a van and a driver to collect your birds, I did consider picking them up myself but on reflection, that would mean having to take time off work which I cant really afford to do, so the plan now is that G Duncan has kindly agreed to collect and the Fed will pay him instead of hiring a van, he will then deliver your crate to Aberdeen or to Gogs who again has kindly offered to take them through with theirs. Alistair Reid Secretary North of Scotland Federation