i gave him ten one came back , i told him i would come and take the other nine back , he then said the barber next door had let them out !! i phoned later and he said that i had asked him to let them out . i told him i had not !! so i reckon he may still have them if he has not sold them or gave them away , he has had hundreds through his hands that's a fact , he has gave sick pigeons to a man i know and later when they got better had the gall to ask for them back ! (pm me and i will tell you the mans name ) ps it was tipplers i gave him like a fool i iam.